Yes that is what I meant.I never thought that the planets between 1-6( stand corrected) would be considered debilitated.

It is considered that planets in houses 1-4 represent childhood. Is it because childhood learning and experiences help shape our personality?So these actually become "hidden" wrt to ego,emotions,intellect...

No, you were actually correct.  Most of the 7th House is also below the horizon at birth.  Because the earth is round, if the Ascendant can be seen, then the Descendant couldn't be seen.  

I don't think many astrologers view the entire 1-7 Houses debilitated.  I just meant that when some astrologers say that the IC (Lower Midheaven) and Desc. are "debilitated," then they'd logically have to say that everything inbetween was also debilitated...but no one does.



Yes, I think so.  There are many ways to view the natal chart.  The entire chart can be viewed as a whole, to represent the personality.  You can also look at the chart as a journey into adulthood with the 1st House being infancy, and so on.  Planets are also used so that each planet represents a certain age in life...so that the transits of that planet through the Houses show how that person matures and ages.  For example, the Sun represents early childhood, so as the sun goes through the Houses, the early childhood can be seen, the experiences and personality development.

Your point has me thinking, also.  How early childhood experiences shape the personality and become hidden within the ego, emotions, intellect.  Not just hidden metaphorically, either, but also hidden to the person.  How many difficulties do we have as adults that have their roots in childhood (especially traumas) that affect the adult, but are pushed down and suppressed by the conscious ego!?!  

Very interesting point you've made!  Everytime, even after 55 years, that I start studying my own chart, I find something new that gives me new things to consider about myself.  Now, I'd like to spend some time looking for those things you've talked about, the hidden, more!  Thank you for that insight.

Since you have got me thinking too. Our learning in childhood ( beginning) is generally visible ( positive or negative )in our adult years ( middle). So would the planets placed in the 5th to the 8th houses indicate adulthood  and the way the learning in childhood is expressed( nature of planets posited in the houses from 5th to 8th). Similarly in the adult hood new learning ( beginning) and type of learning ( planets)  could be expressed in the end years of life. I can see a cycle

So as per astrology a person who lives for maybe 10 years or 90 years does go through the entire life cycle.

Citing a personal example ( do remove if not befitting to the class rules). I knew a 5 yr old child who was had blood cancer and unfortunately died within few months of his diagnosis.His conversation ( mostly in the hospital) always reminded me of an old soul...very profound and mature.In the 5 years of his life...he showed the entire innocence of childhood,the practicality of adulthood and spirituality of senior years.

The astrologers who study the chart as a journey, and also those who study human development or child development, say exactly this thing!  In each "cycle" (as you say) there is something the needs to be completed, accomplished, or learned successfully before moving on...and failure to achieve the growth necessary would cause problems later on in other cycles.

Several notable western astrologers in the last 30 years or so have concentrated on psychological applications to astrology.  Harold Hand and Maritha Pottenger are good examples of astrologers who have a strong background in psychology as well as astrology.  I mention Maritha and Harold Hand because they would certainly appreciate and agree with these observations (and both Maritha and Harold Hand influenced me strongly in my beginning years in astrology with personal correspondence with Maritha, so I have watched Maritha's career in particular with interest).

Many of my own readings focus on the lesson-not-yet-learned that is causing problems in the person's life.  This is not, by far, the only application of astrology, but I think it is less what we do or what happens to us than it is how we are inside that reflects how we deal with life experiences and growth.



Yes, I have known or heard of similar people.  I have never looked closely at one of the birth charts of someone like this, but it would be interesting to see.

Humans are dynamic, growing, evolving so must be their charts hence the dasha systems ( I really dont know about the same in WA) and transits. 'Learning successfully' becomes a subjective/ word...thats why I guess I am in this WA class.
Will read up about Maritha and Harold Hand.



Yes, I wish I would have atleast collected birthdata...but since we are learning...I am going to just start doing that