Yes & sometimes, ppl wouldn't know their moon sign too.

as i have twin grandsons and there is a difference of 2 minutes between both of them and both are different in all ways including their personalities amazing if one is doing fabulous one month the other is doing okay and visaversa so i feel the 2 minutes makes the difference

Hi, Swetha.

Actually, as difficult and time-consuming as it might be, it is still possible to delineate an individual's accurate horoscope - even when the birth time is unknown.  Several factors play a role in accomplishing this task, but perhaps the most essential would be the following:  

1. Make certain that you have the exact coordinates (that is, the latitude and longitude - in degrees, minutes and seconds, if possible) of an individual's precise location of birth.  This means having the exact hospital or locational address (and even building number) in which the birth took place (and not that of a city center).  While this level of accuracy might not be implemented in common practice or seem necessary, it is extremely important for both angular placements and future forecast accuracy as an individual matures in life (this is especially true, with regard to the major angles - the ASC, IC, DSC and MC - because they are the fastest moving elements in the horoscope, followed by the Moon).  

2. It is important to learn the physical and mental characteristics of the Ascendant signs and be able to identify them when looking at an individual for whom a horoscope will be cast.  This is because each sign ascending has distinctive traits that differ from the other.  When the birth time is known, this becomes relatively easy to do.  When it is not known, the work becomes more of a challenge, because opposite signs have similar characteristics, head shapes and demeanors and requires discrimination to distinct from the other.  Luckily, several Ascendant signs can be eliminated based on physical appearance alone.  This narrows down the selection to fewer signs, after which an astrologer can then test the functionality of the horoscope - the next step, below:  

3. Test the horoscope via Secondary Progressions of events in an individual's life.  This includes aspects involving the angles, because they're invariably involved in important life events.  Progressed aspects must be in 4 minutes of arc or less.  Verification of same presumes that one understands the philosophical foundations of every house/area of life and be able to identify the correct placements of planets therein, because they must match real-life traits or manifestations of actions taken by an individual in no uncertain terms.  This knowledge of houses also includes intercepted pairs and their meanings, because they suggests strong vocations or avocations of an individual will most likely pursue or holds strong interests.    

Several more factors are involved but those mentioned above take precedence.  Incidentally, these steps do not just pertain to those with unknown birth times; they apply equally and must be used in the delineation and verification of ALL horoscopes - even when the birth time is known.   What many people and astrologers may not realize is that the physical birth time horoscope rarely matches the one selected by the soul.  In many cases – although certainly not all – it is usually the one before the reported physical birth time – and sometimes it is two signs before!  That means, an individual’s physical birth time might show Capricorn on the Ascendant when in reality he or she really has a Sagittarius or Scorpio body type and personality.  It might also come as a shock for others to know that a soul chooses its horoscope prior to physical birth – during labor – and not at first breath!  

Best Regards,


Shaun

My mother, who has passed on now, told me I was born at about 1 am, but she couldnt recall the  minutes. Does an approximate birth time count?

Thanks,

Suebee