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dear sandhu sir
balaji suresh


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i was only making the point that weaker planet cannot be allowed to be as it  is especially when it is lagna lord. in my case the combust mercury was also receiving jupiter's aspect.inspite of being combust, mercury allowed me to finish undergraduation as well as continue my post graduate studies.though i have had some nervous breakdowns it was before i wore the ring.thank you.
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Hello Chandubai,

Need some clarification on Paapakartari.

As per Prasna Marga - Papakartari is -  A sign or a planet hiving malefics on either side.
Going by this definition i would estimate atleast 50% people would have paapakartari in there charts either by sign or planet. My understanding was if any house or planet is hemmed between malefics it becomes less powerful.

If we consider all the paapakartari's based on sign or planet is there any difference between them or all give the same result.

Regards


[quote="ChanDubai"]Dear All,

I would like to seek an expert's opinion and advise (though i have been suggested by one of th learned Astrologer before) on wearing a Gem stone of Mars (Red Coral) as a remedial measure...since choosing the Right and Correct Gem is bit tricky and need careful and minute study of the chart. So seeking some more insights from experienced astrologers out here without being an offending and with due respect to the Astrologer who had suggested me to wear Coral and Ruby.

Following is my understanding and with some inputs/advises from learned Astrologer(s)

Mars being my LL and the Lagna Lord is always considered benafic even here Mars owns the 8H still he is considered as Benafic as per many scholars and our Astro Sciptures...

My LL Mars goes to 9H But hemmed btwn Natural Malific RAHU and SUN Hence it is in Paapakartari Yoga. It is generally believed that, Any house that is hemmed in between by malefics represents an "area of restriction"

So here Mars also being a Natural Malific and in Paapakartari Yoga is it advisible to wear Red Coral?

Note: My 9H is directly aspected by SaturnR who is sitting in my 3H

And secondly, i am looking at 5H remedy my 5HL is SUN and is afflicted due to Amavasya Moon and Retro Mercury joining him in my 10H

some astrologers are of the opinion that, we have to see even Streangths and placements of any other Planets from AL (Arudha Lagna) (especially in 3H and 6H from AL) also before priscribing any Gem(s) . In my Chart my AL is in 5H. AL Lord Sun is in 6H from Arudha Lagna but afflicated as mentioned before..

So still can i Wear RUBY?

Now if both Red Coral and Ruby can be worn, then Which finger and hand should i wear?

My Details:
DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM. POB: Nargund. Karnataka, India

Appreciate your valuable insights and help

Regards

ChanDubai[/quote]
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ChanDubai


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Hello Rajani Ji,

Appreciate your inputs which are valid though..as you are aware i am not the author of "Prasna Marga" hence i can not help much on clarifying your doubts!!

With my little study and what i understood so far is PaapaKartari Yoga and it's effect(s) are more or rather more visible in the life/events of the native(s) "When the this Yoga is formed involving the Planet or planets. If you go by or see from Sign base PKY which is hemmed btwn 2 Natural Malifics, i don't think it has any MUCH significance or any effects(s) on the native(s). As you mentioned rightly even more then 50% of the people's charts will have this PKY...this is my humble opinion and ready for any correction in my understanding..

If you have studied any chart(s) where Planet or planets involved in PKY then would request you to share your observation(s)

Regards

ChanDubai
 

Rajani wrote:
Hello Chandubai,

Need some clarification on Paapakartari.

As per Prasna Marga - Papakartari is -  A sign or a planet hiving malefics on either side.
Going by this definition i would estimate atleast 50% people would have paapakartari in there charts either by sign or planet. My understanding was if any house or planet is hemmed between malefics it becomes less powerful.

If we consider all the paapakartari's based on sign or planet is there any difference between them or all give the same result.

Regards


ChanDubai wrote:
Dear All,

I would like to seek an expert's opinion and advise (though i have been suggested by one of th learned Astrologer before) on wearing a Gem stone of Mars (Red Coral) as a remedial measure...since choosing the Right and Correct Gem is bit tricky and need careful and minute study of the chart. So seeking some more insights from experienced astrologers out here without being an offending and with due respect to the Astrologer who had suggested me to wear Coral and Ruby.

Following is my understanding and with some inputs/advises from learned Astrologer(s)

Mars being my LL and the Lagna Lord is always considered benafic even here Mars owns the 8H still he is considered as Benafic as per many scholars and our Astro Sciptures...

My LL Mars goes to 9H But hemmed btwn Natural Malific RAHU and SUN Hence it is in Paapakartari Yoga. It is generally believed that, Any house that is hemmed in between by malefics represents an "area of restriction"

So here Mars also being a Natural Malific and in Paapakartari Yoga is it advisible to wear Red Coral?

Note: My 9H is directly aspected by SaturnR who is sitting in my 3H

And secondly, i am looking at 5H remedy my 5HL is SUN and is afflicted due to Amavasya Moon and Retro Mercury joining him in my 10H

some astrologers are of the opinion that, we have to see even Streangths and placements of any other Planets from AL (Arudha Lagna) (especially in 3H and 6H from AL) also before priscribing any Gem(s) . In my Chart my AL is in 5H. AL Lord Sun is in 6H from Arudha Lagna but afflicated as mentioned before..

So still can i Wear RUBY?

Now if both Red Coral and Ruby can be worn, then Which finger and hand should i wear?

My Details:
DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM. POB: Nargund. Karnataka, India

Appreciate your valuable insights and help

Regards

ChanDubai
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Rajani wrote:
...As per Prasna Marga - Papakartari is -  A sign or a planet hiving malefics on either side.
Going by this definition i would estimate atleast 50% people would have paapakartari in there charts either by sign or planet. My understanding was if any house or planet is hemmed between malefics it becomes less powerful.

If we consider all the paapakartari's based on sign or planet is there any difference between them or all give the same result.
...



I am not sure about the exact percentage etc but given the grief and misery I see around in the world and the types of reading requests, is it so difficult to imagine and believe that some of this misery could be indicated by the prevailing papakartari yogas in charts?

Papakartari can at times be an invitation from the 'devil' within us and tests ones ethics and morals. The path of least resistance in the short run in such cases uses the negative and selfish path, but as we all know in the long run that is not the wise choice. We do not necessarily want to take the easy path now and create a baggage of destiny for the future.

Sorry for butting into your conversation ...

RR
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ChanDubai


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You may visit http://www.saptarishisastrology.com and download the Aug 08 issue and refer Page No# 211 you will find a nice article written by Mr. Alok Jagawat on Gems

Hope this will help.

Regards

ChanDubai

P.S: Though i am not a King (may be not yet:-)) just to share my one of the incident, i was fortunate to get the PURE and NATURAL PEARL directly from the Pearl Diver who cut and opend pearl shell in front of me and told me that you are very lucky to get the same...!! people around me including Arab women at the Live Pearl show started following me and asking me to sell that pearl and they are ready to pay and Buy!! But i thought it would be better NOT to sell for Monitory GAIN (again the MIND!! ya) i gave that Pearl along with Emerald to charity at Temple here in Dubai...!!
 

rohiniranjan wrote:
ChanDubai wrote:
...since choosing the Right and Correct Gem is bit tricky...



Actually not tricky but more like EXPENSIVE! For the nativity!!

Hence it was prescribed for Kings and the rich in *times* when astrology was supported by Royal Grants (parampara of raj jyotishis etc) and generally Kings and the Rich used to give gemstones in charity (like a moti ki mala or heeray ki angoothi) as remedial.

The practice without necessarily universal "classical" assent has in modern times (last hundred or two years) taken the convenient form of wearing the gemstones. Very practical from a worldly point of view! Gemstones tend to go up in value (unless you have been duped by a fly-by-nighter gemstone dealer! Yes Virginia, they do exist!!) so it is a win-win situation!

I have never received a straight answer from astrologers who habitually prescribe gemstones and so must have a repertoire/database of their efficacy! And not all do.

Sorry ChanDubai for latching on to your quest, but mine is very similar to yours. We both want to find the prevailing truth
RR
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