What is the basic difference between the Parasara or the normal System of prediction and KP System. What are the advantaages and disadvantages of using KP system.

As you must have experienced that pin-pointing of the timing of the events is rather difficult (? impossible) when one uses Vedic or any other system.

At the same time in cases of Twin Births the charts of then two persons will remain almost same in Vedic system. However there is always a lot of difference in them.

If you want a precise 'YES' or 'NO' answer astrologically then it is also difficult in conventional astrology.

In conventional horary astrology if two or more people approach to you at the same time then it again becomes very difficult to give accurate predictions as their charts will remain the same.

To overcome the above and similar short-comings of the conventional vedic system, KP comes as saviour.

Major Differences From Vedic :

KP system gives importance to the Constellations / Stars / Nakshatras divisions of the Zodiac which is obviously the most desired for precision.
Further it divides each Constellation / Star / Nakshatra division into further 9 subdivisions called 'SUBS'. These sub divisions are not equal divisions, but are as per the Vimshottari Dashas Divisions System.
K.P. System uses K.P. Ayanamshas as opposed to Lahiri Ayanamshas mostly used in Vedic System. The difference between two is about 6 minutes (Kala).
This system uses Cusps that is house/ bhav beginnings like Western Systems, as opposed to Vedic System which uses House Centres i.e. Bhav Madhyas.
This system uses Placidus House system.
The planet in it's dasha gives results as per it's Nakshtra-Swami (Star-Lord) rather than the planet itself.
Whether the above results will be benefic or malefic will be decided by the Planet's SUB.
Hence Planet is represents the SOURCE, that Planet's Star-Lord represents the EFFECTS, RESULTS and that Planet's Sub gives idea of the FINAL DIRECTION of that result.
RULING PLANETS : Unique Concept of KP for Powerful Divine Guidance during predictions..


Prof Krishnamurthi noticed that a planet in its period invoked the results of a house with which it is not connected by occupation, ownership, association or aspect which are the ordinary considerations in prediction. This opened his eyes to the supreme importance of constellations in prediction. He established by his researches that the results of a planet (in its period) are strongly modified by the lord of the constellation in which it is posited according to the occupation, ownership, association and aspects of the latter. Prof. Krishnamurti understood that the difference in the result should be attributed to the exact portion of the constellation occupied by the planet. For determining the zone of the constellation occupied by the tenanting planet the constellation had to be divided in some significant, scientific manner. The idea of  dividing the constellation in the mysterious unequal  Vimsottari proportion attributed to the venerable Sage Parasara struck him . Prof. Krishnamurti succeeded again in establishing through his researches that the manner (favorable or adverse) in which house result are invoked by a planet is dictated by the lord of the division of the constellation in which the planet is posited (whom he calls the sub-lord) according to the occupation, ownership etc., of the latter(the sublord).  

The problem of differences (in longevity, financial status, profession etc.,) in the lives of  twins born within very short intervals which have a bearing on the house -cusps had also been engaging his attention from the beginning. Prof. Krishnamurti takes the house cusp as the starting point of the house and not as the midpoint as in the Sripathy Padhdhati of Hindu Astrology. He has established through innumerable correct predictions that his method is correct. Like the planets he subjected the house-cusps to the method of constellation and sub. The planet owning either the constellation or the sub on the cusp of a house gives the results of the house provided it is in a constellation and sub sympathetic to the matters of the house.Likewise a planet posited in the constellation of the constellation lord or the sublord of the cusp of a house invoked the results of that house in the manner dictated by the planet's sublord.  

There are innumerable "yogas" (which do not take into account house connections in any scientific manner) which fix the longevity in various ranges.There is the  method of  Ashtakavarga based on rough Rasi chart which is used to predict longevity.All these tumble down before the problem of difference in the  longevity of twins.  

The prosperity or prediction of a bhava is generally examined with reference to the sign strength of the bhava lord and bhavakaraka, their  benefic or malefic associations and aspects. He understood that something fast moving is to  relied upon. And that is the house cusp which is rarely marked or  examined by the vociferous protagonists of Astrology. If the cusp is caught in the right sub, a thorough examination of the stellar position and disposition of the sublord would reveal the fate of the bhava correctly. This too Prof. Krishnamurti established through research on innumerable charts. The differences in the longevity, financial status, profession etc., of twins were explained remarkably  & accurately by the sublords of the relavant cusps.  

Prof. Krishnamurti noticed that great gains came to some during "Sade Sathi" honour on Chandrashtma day and so on. He extended his stellar technique to transits as well. The lords of the constellation and sub transited by the transiting planet explain the events accurately in terms of the houses they signify.  

Prof. Krishnamurti was thus able to supply the missing links in the existing techniques of prediction  found a unique technique comprehensive, scientific and minute, a Padhahati known by his name, a system that would apply to the goose and  the gander alike.  

Prof. Krishnamurti 's theory  that the planets co-ruling the moment when a matter is taken up for examination with real urge will co-rule the moment of fructification of the matter as well is immensely helpful in pinpointing the time of occurrence of events especially in Horary  Astrology. We have seen how unerring predictions can be offered if a chart is erected scientifically for the correct birth time and the house-cusps are caught in the right subs. Reversing the process, the subs of  house-cusps can be fixed accurately, if a few events relating to the native or those directly related to him (say, parents) are known. Ruling planets coupled with events constitute an excellent method of rectification of birth time.  


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But why did Professor Krishnamurthy decide to break the mould and go with the Placidus house system and followed the western tropical tradition of using the house cusp (like the lagna sphuta, rising degree) as the beginning of a house as opposed to the bhava madhya as is used in the rest of Jyotish?

Are the claims of accuracy of KP system, as shown in Krishnamurthy's readers which were uncanny and created a stir in the sixties and so on -- have they maintained their high level in a documented manner or simply anecdotal claims?

If it is such a super accurate technical system and by my reckoning (I have tried it way back some decades ago) easy to learn and apply, how come it has not taken over the field, but rather remains a traditional shy hindu bride (borrowing that statement from KN Rao who used it for the navamsha chart!) in hiding and never seen where the bridegroom (Parashari and Jaimini jyotish) are seen :-)

RR

[quote="swetha"]As you must have experienced that pin-pointing of the timing of the events is rather difficult (? impossible) when one uses Vedic or any other system.

At the same time in cases of Twin Births the charts of then two persons will remain almost same in Vedic system. However there is always a lot of difference in them.

If you want a precise 'YES' or 'NO' answer astrologically then it is also difficult in conventional astrology.

In conventional horary astrology if two or more people approach to you at the same time then it again becomes very difficult to give accurate predictions as their charts will remain the same.

To overcome the above and similar short-comings of the conventional vedic system, KP comes as saviour.

Major Differences From Vedic :

KP system gives importance to the Constellations / Stars / Nakshatras divisions of the Zodiac which is obviously the most desired for precision.
Further it divides each Constellation / Star / Nakshatra division into further 9 subdivisions called 'SUBS'. These sub divisions are not equal divisions, but are as per the Vimshottari Dashas Divisions System.
K.P. System uses K.P. Ayanamshas as opposed to Lahiri Ayanamshas mostly used in Vedic System. The difference between two is about 6 minutes (Kala).
This system uses Cusps that is house/ bhav beginnings like Western Systems, as opposed to Vedic System which uses House Centres i.e. Bhav Madhyas.
This system uses Placidus House system.
The planet in it's dasha gives results as per it's Nakshtra-Swami (Star-Lord) rather than the planet itself.
Whether the above results will be benefic or malefic will be decided by the Planet's SUB.
Hence Planet is represents the SOURCE, that Planet's Star-Lord represents the EFFECTS, RESULTS and that Planet's Sub gives idea of the FINAL DIRECTION of that result.
RULING PLANETS : Unique Concept of KP for Powerful Divine Guidance during predictions..


Prof Krishnamurthi noticed that a planet in its period invoked the results of a house with which it is not connected by occupation, ownership, association or aspect which are the ordinary considerations in prediction. This opened his eyes to the supreme importance of constellations in prediction. He established by his researches that the results of a planet (in its period) are strongly modified by the lord of the constellation in which it is posited according to the occupation, ownership, association and aspects of the latter. Prof. Krishnamurti understood that the difference in the result should be attributed to the exact portion of the constellation occupied by the planet. For determining the zone of the constellation occupied by the tenanting planet the constellation had to be divided in some significant, scientific manner. The idea of  dividing the constellation in the mysterious unequal  Vimsottari proportion attributed to the venerable Sage Parasara struck him . Prof. Krishnamurti succeeded again in establishing through his researches that the manner (favorable or adverse) in which house result are invoked by a planet is dictated by the lord of the division of the constellation in which the planet is posited (whom he calls the sub-lord) according to the occupation, ownership etc., of the latter(the sublord).  

The problem of differences (in longevity, financial status, profession etc.,) in the lives of  twins born within very short intervals which have a bearing on the house -cusps had also been engaging his attention from the beginning. Prof. Krishnamurti takes the house cusp as the starting point of the house and not as the midpoint as in the Sripathy Padhdhati of Hindu Astrology. He has established through innumerable correct predictions that his method is correct. Like the planets he subjected the house-cusps to the method of constellation and sub. The planet owning either the constellation or the sub on the cusp of a house gives the results of the house provided it is in a constellation and sub sympathetic to the matters of the house.Likewise a planet posited in the constellation of the constellation lord or the sublord of the cusp of a house invoked the results of that house in the manner dictated by the planet's sublord.  

There are innumerable "yogas" (which do not take into account house connections in any scientific manner) which fix the longevity in various ranges.There is the  method of  Ashtakavarga based on rough Rasi chart which is used to predict longevity.All these tumble down before the problem of difference in the  longevity of twins.  

The prosperity or prediction of a bhava is generally examined with reference to the sign strength of the bhava lord and bhavakaraka, their  benefic or malefic associations and aspects. He understood that something fast moving is to  relied upon. And that is the house cusp which is rarely marked or  examined by the vociferous protagonists of Astrology. If the cusp is caught in the right sub, a thorough examination of the stellar position and disposition of the sublord would reveal the fate of the bhava correctly. This too Prof. Krishnamurti established through research on innumerable charts. The differences in the longevity, financial status, profession etc., of twins were explained remarkably  & accurately by the sublords of the relavant cusps.  

Prof. Krishnamurti noticed that great gains came to some during "Sade Sathi" honour on Chandrashtma day and so on. He extended his stellar technique to transits as well. The lords of the constellation and sub transited by the transiting planet explain the events accurately in terms of the houses they signify.  

Prof. Krishnamurti was thus able to supply the missing links in the existing techniques of prediction  found a unique technique comprehensive, scientific and minute, a Padhahati known by his name, a system that would apply to the goose and  the gander alike.  

Prof. Krishnamurti 's theory  that the planets co-ruling the moment when a matter is taken up for examination with real urge will co-rule the moment of fructification of the matter as well is immensely helpful in pinpointing the time of occurrence of events especially in Horary  Astrology. We have seen how unerring predictions can be offered if a chart is erected scientifically for the correct birth time and the house-cusps are caught in the right subs. Reversing the process, the subs of  house-cusps can be fixed accurately, if a few events relating to the native or those directly related to him (say, parents) are known. Ruling planets coupled with events constitute an excellent method of rectification of birth time.  


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I think Swetha has covered almost all Aspects of KP System. The base of KP System is "Nakshatras" and "Ruling Planet". The "Prashna Kundali" (Horoscope of the Time when Question asked) in KP System gives Quite Accurate results.

In regular Vedic Astrology, we use Nakshatras only for Moon mainly. As Moon is Base of Vedic Astrology and Controls one's Mind and major Decisions in the Life. The major approach behind is Marriage "Match Making" as it involves Nakshtras till their 4 Charanas. But there is hardly any Emphasis on "Which Planet gives what Effect in which Nakshatras". Some Writers (Astrologers) have started it taking seriously, so there are some books in that context. Though Research in such books is not Good Enough as these are "Nascent Efforts", still I think it is a Good Start.

Secondly, no Astrological System is Seamless and Correct (I mean 100% Correct). Though I Love and Follow "Vedic Astrology", still I Love to Explore, Western Context of Astrology. How their Almanac is 1 or 2 years Ahead of ours? How their Predictions come True when according to Vedic Astrology Planets are in Different Signs.

Yes, considering Rising degrees, Bhav Arambha and incorporating Western Astrology in KP System are new things but ultimately we must consider the overall Effect. Like any other Science, Astrology is also developing. We must Explore, newer Ways to make Reading which will take Astrology to a new High and also a Reliable Source of knowing the Unknown.


The major Problem why KP System is not Popular is because, the kind of Sensitisation which is required to make it Popular, has not been done properly. There are few Books available on it. There are very few People (Astrologer) who are Experts and will share their views. For a New Learner it is Difficult (Although it is not), due to Nakshatras and Different Approach. There are no Good Magazines, Writers or Articles available for it. There are no Exams or Certificate courses in this Branch from Astrological Institute and University (Atleast I don't know).

I think its Good that someone broke the Ice and Put such a Nice Subject on Board. Thanks to all Contributors !!!

God Bless All !!!

"Yes, considering Rising degrees, Bhav Arambha and incorporating Western Astrology in KP System are new things but ultimately we must consider the overall Effect. Like any other Science, Astrology is also developing. We must Explore, newer Ways to make Reading which will take Astrology to a new High and also a Reliable Source of knowing the Unknown. "

These word are important to make mind in the thinking new was about making good to living world.meaning of history reading is making sense about the past and we can learn by the past effects,but past always not with us,make sense about physical changing and give suggestions by time of today not by the time of past.
Thankyou millind

Ramendra
jaipur