Once I wrote an article on "Personal Indicators in a horoscope". It was published in a 'western/tropical' milieu! Because that is where I was living and felt the urge to share what I felt must be shared. My style of sharing had never been contrived or 'crafted'! I was living in a very different realm than where I grew up and learned my ropes: astrology or other things I learned. It was never with the motivation of making a place for myself or 'delivering the great message' or anything like that! As I lived in the West, and ran into and experienced westerners and their ways of thinking, and looked at their charts and gave advice, I marvelled at how effective and transparent Jyotish is and how "universally-applicable", though with judicious modulations because Jyotish does have many rather 'concrete' hints that can leave the concrete jyotishi somewhat 'ham-strung'!

I applied sincerely myself not as a teacher but a student, because I was learning and experiencing about a new society myself and their ethos and pathos whee I made my home, always grateful to MA who made it possible. Though She did tell me in grade five the name of my 'town' way further down my road! However that information may be interpreted and analyzed.

I always learned not only just from "rote" concretely and overly 'literally' because in my observation that just creates stalemates and only civil and polite smiles and 'thank you!' and then the time and intention of both are wasted! Jyotishi and nativity!!:-(

Lagna, Arudha Lagna, and Bhavat-bhavam lagna and similarly for the other houses to me always represented the TRIMURTI facets of each house. Trimurti, metaphorically, to me represents Creation/Sustenance/Destruction or as biologists learn: Procreation/Anabolism/Catabolism. There are many more mystical and spiritual TRIDS that can be added to make the string longer!

Can that TRIANGULAR/TRIPODAL model be applied to the three personal indicators is my simple question! What do you all think?

Please think about it from that angle and share without fear. Open your minds and hearts! Doing so is not sin, if you are not concrete and conservative and miserly in your thinking and security!

Love, Light, Sharing,

>>>"Lagna, Arudha Lagna, and Bhavat-bhavam lagna and similarly for the other houses to me always represented the TRIMURTI facets of each house. Trimurti, metaphorically, to me represents Creation/Sustenance/Destruction or as biologists learn: Procreation/Anabolism/Catabolism. There are many more mystical and spiritual TRIDS that can be added to make the string longer!

Can that TRIANGULAR/TRIPODAL model be applied to the three personal indicators is my simple question!"
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Will you elaborate further what you mean ??

-VJ

Maybe the reference to triangular/tripodal is confusing readers, but I do not mean in the sense of 'trinal/trikona', but more in the sense of tri-faceted! Does that help answer my question?

Love and Light,

Lagna                             = Creation
Arudha Lagna                  = Sustenance / Anabolism
Bhavat-bhavam lagna      = Destruction  / Catabolism

Arnold Toynbee visualized this three faceted phenomenon of Creation - Sustenance - Destruction and a five staged process through which every unique Civilization (or individual) passes : Birth - Growth - Development - Decay - Death/Destruction. Growh and Decay are intermediate stages, hence there is no radical departure from the three faceted concept.

But how this concept helps in astrology ? I am not clear about what you imply. Do you imply the following :

Lagna is getting Deha in this life and in a wider sense Daihika Jeevana. Hence, "creation".

Grammatically, Pada implies the "means of attaining a goal". Hence LAGNA-PADA  implies  "the means through which lagna functions". Hence, your sense of  "sustenance" is correct.

12th to lagna is Loss of Deha (Moksha) and of Daihika things, while 2nd to lagna is for Killer ( or Wealth and Sense organs which impede the path to Moksha and are therefore killers). Hence, "destruction".

Am I mistaken ?  

-VJ

My understanding is that 7th (vyaya of ayu bhav from lagna) and 2nd (vyaya of bhavat-bhavam of ayu) are the basis for their being Marakas.