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Certain
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:50 am |
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I use only Parashari aspects as they work big time.
Let me vent out little bit today about my frustration in reagrds to other Vargas
I have found only D9,D10 very useful in practice to give predcitions in comparison to any other varga chart. D9 , I count it as an independent chart of dharma and bhagya sthan not as a subordinate of D1.
I many times dont bother looking at any other than D9, D10 because they are very inadequately explained in astrology texts.
Even D9 and D10 I don't read them for spouse or profession only. I see them as Bhagya fine tuning and Karma sthan fine tuning (not just the profession).
If I literally start analysing these as spouse / profession , these fail to give answers adequately.
I use Parashari aspects 'only' in both. I learnt Gemini system signiificantly later than Parshari system and most predictions fitted well even without using Gemini. I ,kind of ,don't have habbit of looking for Gemini aspects much.
I dont like the idea of using both type of aspects in same horoscope for 'one' prediction as they stand many times completely opposite.I avoid analysing profession , for instance, using gemini and then using BHPS , that making it a mixture and reaching nowhere.
Using everything doesnt increase predictive accuracy.
When BHPS fails to account for events ,golden mantra I have found for myself in astrology is, ..Look for afflicted houses in D1, assess the severity of affliction in D1, calculate the Moola Dasha rather than banging head in charkarakas, have a fleeting look at other D charts (doesnt help most of the time). Moola dasha generally finishes the circle of questions without having to look at any other varga.
Moola Dasha , and interpretation of afflicted houses receiving combined drishti aspect by saturn + rahu/ saturn+mars /sat+mar+rahu stumps every single thing in horoscope. Person might have 36 raj yogas but when saturn takes control in Moola dasha , it brings wrath corresponding to the house it gets posited in or the houses which are afflicted through shared malefic drishti in above said combination along with tajik.In those circumstances ,no analysing or looking at raj yoga, no looking at varga helps ever.
For this precise reason I have stopped really focussing much at vargas.
For me two/three malefic aspects (Parashari) from natural malefics irrespective of lagna rashi of native is affliction. Even for taurus lagna , if any house is being aspected by saturn, rahu , I call it afflicted. I dont give any handicap of Yogakaraka when BHPS is not accounting for the circumstances of client. I count only three natural malefics mars , saturn and rahu. I look for houses aspected by saturn , mars , rahu jointly (minimum two planets out of the three)and of that 'matter/karak tatwa' has affliction in D9 as well. It is pretty much very bad prognosis. if there is no affliction in D1 and there is only affliction in D9 varga chart , client always confirms struggle in those areas every now and then despite of having good combinations in D1. This is the only thing which has worked in varga chart otherwise.
I probably wouldnt be able to write much now , as my holidays are over.
Would have to get back to daily run around.
Will try best to keep visiting.
Regards
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Rohiniranjan
Age: 59 Zodiac: 
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:47 am |
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Thanks for your thoughtful message and sharing your approaches and perspectives. I fully understand your practical approach and I too follow that in principle and practice.
Although modern jyotishis have fallen into this mind-set that jaimini and parasaari system are separate or mutually exclusive. Since I learned Jyotish sincerely in sixties, I never treated them as separate since both were in BPHS. I could be wrong and they might be separate originally and perhaps someone grafted gemini into BPHS. Who knows?
As far as finer vargas are considered, I have always seen them as supportive evidence (weight of evidence approach) and often that has been helpful, but have always held D1 as the most important one. In general that works for me.
Use of padas and karakas (all three) have been very helpful and reveal many nuances that may not show up in an approach that excludes their consideration.
But let us take that up later when your work-life balance allows. I am willing to wait.
Now let us hear about the question about aspects, from others and hopefully learn from those.
Regards,
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RishiRahul
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:06 pm |
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| Rohiniranjan wrote: |
How are you all using the 'drishti' of planets in vargas other than kshetra (sign lagna chart)? For instance in navamsha kundali or dwadashamsha kundali?
1. Do you not use normal drishtis in finer charts. Such as 1,5,7,9 for jupiter (1 indicates yuti or conjunction)
Rishi=Yes. Did not yet find the applicability of rasi dasas in varga charts. What are your views?
2. Only use conjunction (and what about 7)?
Rishi=Conjunction and 7 are very imprtant aspects and they go hand in hand as opposites.
3. Use the drishti sambandh from kshetra chart. So if sun was aspecting saturn in the natal chart, you would assume that the 'bond' between the two planet would continue to operate even if in the varga chart, they are not placed 7th from one another or in 3,7,10 from saturn if that is casting the aspect in lagna chart.
Rishi=Not quite. The bond between Sun & saturn would affect whatever its supposed to signify in rasi chart; but they would not quite do so in affecting the bond in D chart.
But if it the D chart bond is already signified in rasi chart it would work/operate in THAT level. What would you say?
4. Just use rashi (Jaimini) sambandha (drishti)
Rishi= ?Arent rasi and graha drishti very much separate in purpose?
The difference is as subtle as satya and maya peeth (Rath's language), I think.
5. Any other considerations?
Rishi=Cant think of anything right now. What else could there be?
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Rishi
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 | Re: Griha (Parasari) drishti in vargas...? |  |
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Rohiniranjan
Age: 59 Zodiac: 
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:20 pm |
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| RishiRahul wrote: |
| Rohiniranjan wrote: |
How are you all using the 'drishti' of planets in vargas other than kshetra (sign lagna chart)? For instance in navamsha kundali or dwadashamsha kundali?
1. Do you not use normal drishtis in finer charts. Such as 1,5,7,9 for jupiter (1 indicates yuti or conjunction)
Rishi=Yes. Did not yet find the applicability of rasi dasas in varga charts. What are your views?
Rohiniranjan:I was asking about Rashi sambandh/drishtis and not rasi dasas! I have not yet convinced myself that rasi drishtis (I prefer sambandha!) ONLY work with rasi dasas! Open minded about it hence the question to survey what other people practice. hence the question...!
2. Only use conjunction (and what about 7)?
Rishi=Conjunction and 7 are very important aspects and they go hand in hand as opposites.
Rohiniranjan:What I was asking (sorry for my un-clear question (!) was,'instead of all drishtis, in finer vargas, do you consider ONLY conjunction and opposition (7th) aspect?'
3. Use the drishti sambandh from kshetra chart. So if sun was aspecting saturn in the natal chart, you would assume that the 'bond' between the two planet would continue to operate even if in the varga chart, they are not placed 7th from one another or in 3,7,10 from saturn if that is casting the aspect in lagna chart.
Rishi=Not quite. The bond between Sun & saturn would affect whatever its supposed to signify in rasi chart; but they would not quite do so in affecting the bond in D chart.
But if it the D chart bond is already signified in rasi chart it would work/operate in THAT level. What would you say?
Rohiniranjan:What I meant was, if there is aspect between two planets in D1 but no aspect or association between them in D9, would they still remain 'connected?' Since it is the same planet that is in D1 or D9 or D60, even though its 'varga' or zone it is in is different! In the 'varga' perspective, the planets kind of remain constant but the zone varies!
4. Just use rashi (Jaimini) sambandha (drishti)
Rishi= ?Arent rasi and graha drishti very much separate in purpose?
The difference is as subtle as satya and maya peeth (Rath's language), I think.
Rohiniranjan:I am not familiar with Sanjay's teachings and 'language' so cannot really comment. You will have to tell me the separate purposes of rashi and griha drishti, and perhaps then I can comment.
5. Any other considerations?
Rishi=Cant think of anything right now. What else could there be?
Rohiniranjan:No problem. Let us wait for others, they might have something to add. Or not!
Regards.
Rishi
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