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HORA VARGA
Rohiniranjan


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Jyotish describes the term HORA in different contexts. Planetary rulers of (roughly) each hour from sunrise used for consideration in bala computation, the hora lagna oriented chart etc. This communication is about the Hora varga, one of the divisional charts also known as V-2 or D-2 which is associated with wealth or sampatti.

For a long time, and even today by far and large, this chart has simply two signs, leo and cancer ruled by sun and moon with the planets all lumped into these two signs based on their location in the kshetra (lagna-rashi) chart (the natal chart) and the gender of the sign and the gender of the two halves within each masculine (odd) and feminine (even) sign. Then, it is mostly left aside though faithfully appears in all printouts etc, like the shy bride who is brought along by the husband to the party celebration and then quietly sits next to her husband without opening her mouth! (I must express my gratitude to Shri K.N. Rao who used a similar analogy for the navamsha chart in his incredibly brilliant writings and which made me roll on the floor laughing at the brilliant analogy presented by this unique great jyotishi! )

I think several variants have been suggested by more inclusive jyotishis. The first one I read long ago was in The Astrological Magazine in early 80s if I recall correctly in which alternatives were suggested for hora, trishamsha and drekkana and other vargas. I believe there have been others too.

The bipolar treatment (no pun intended!) that is seen in most printouts (two horas - karka and simha) arises obviously from the reference in (for example, BPHS) where the two horas or groups of moon and sun are mentioned. But then there is also the reference to 'cycles' of the signs (meshadi...).

Odd signs have first half belonging to masculine and second half belonging to feminine signs. The reverse is true for even signs.

There are two ways of dealing with this, one being to run the cycle (aries, taurus, gemini...) for groups of odd signs as a class, and even signs as another cluster. So the order could be:
Aries: Aries, Taurus
Gemini: Gemini, Cancer
Leo: Leo, Virgo
...
Taurus: Taurus, Aries
Cancer: Cancer, Gemini
Virgo: Virgo, Leo

But this looks counter-intuitive and complex and introduces a bias or potential bias -- The first part of any sign then becomes like vargottama with the kshetra and D2 having the same quality. CAVEAT: Vargottama is generally recommended only for V9. I am NOT suggesting that we should extend that to other vargas!

The other series is more attractive (to me, anyway!)
Aries: Aries, Taurus
Taurus: Cancer, Gemini
Gemini: Leo, Virgo
and so on...

If you wish to experiment with this, at your own risk of course (!), my advice would be to not over-apply this and only to focus on the sector related to wealth, sampatti as understood in the worldly sense. At least at first...!

Love, Light, Learning (NOT teaching!),
Rohiniranjan


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When I sounded that <caveat>, something kept bothering me! I think I captured my thoughts about vargottama in the varga article I wrote some years ago and published it at one of the publishing sites. I do not wish to post that link because it is against forum rules and I have always tried to be a good net-citizen and like to abide by rules. But one of my personal rules is that NET has limited bandwidth and if we keep copying and pasting large chunks of text in multiple places then we are simply choking the servers and essentially magnetic storage space, somewhere in the cyber-verse that hosts our 'reality' of Internet! It is a long article :-(  My messages tend to be pretty long-winded on internet -- and surprisingly I used to get prizes for "precis-writing" all through my childhood!

Rishi_bhai -- please come to my help and solve my quandry? Is there a library here where I could upload my article? I do not wish to choke up forum space!

If impossible to accommodate, I am not the kind of person to harbour hard-feelings on such a trivial matter! I only share my articles at a few places and people can google those in a jiffy, if they wish and are so inclined.

Love, Light, Learning,

Rohiniranjan
Rohiniranjan


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I looked at several charts, of people known to be rich (focusing only on monetary wealth at this time, though many types of 'wealth' have been described including Gnan-sampada/sampati (special knowledge or wealth of knowledge) but being a simple-minded fellow I chose to focus on the obvious and unambiguously or at least widely-accepted!) and charts of those who are/were poor. At some point I will focus on rags to riches and riches to rags individuals too, as time goes on and if I get good results.

Instead of bombarding you with lots of examples, I will just request you to do some fishing of your own and apply the order described in reliable charts that you have. HORAS are simple to eyeball and create due to inherent definition of those. Sign divided into two halves, what could be simpler?

You might run into charts where ascendant or a planet is hovering dangerously close to that troublesome 15 degree point, which determines the boundary of the bipolar duality so beautifully captured in Hora! Lay those aside for now, and who knows if you are lucky, those may give you valuable hints about this other problematical conundrum known as ayanamsha

So, as the french say, "Allons-y!"

Love, Light, Learning
RishiRahul
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Rohiniranjan wrote:
When I sounded that <caveat>, something kept bothering me! I think I captured my thoughts about vargottama in the varga article I wrote some years ago and published it at one of the publishing sites. I do not wish to post that link because it is against forum rules and I have always tried to be a good net-citizen and like to abide by rules. But one of my personal rules is that NET has limited bandwidth and if we keep copying and pasting large chunks of text in multiple places then we are simply choking the servers and essentially magnetic storage space, somewhere in the cyber-verse that hosts our 'reality' of Internet! It is a long article :-(  My messages tend to be pretty long-winded on internet -- and surprisingly I used to get prizes for "precis-writing" all through my childhood!

Rishi_bhai -- please come to my help and solve my quandry? Is there a library here where I could upload my article? I do not wish to choke up forum space!

If impossible to accommodate, I am not the kind of person to harbour hard-feelings on such a trivial matter! I only share my articles at a few places and people can google those in a jiffy, if they wish and are so inclined.

Love, Light, Learning,

Rohiniranjan


Dada,

Sorry I was away for a day!

There is no other place for articles. Also you can use forum space here, or whatever is easier.

Rishi
Rohiniranjan


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No Problem, Rishi. These are minor problems and can be easily and openly solved with giving the site name and a keyword about the title without giving URLs etc. Assuming that the poster has copyrights or a publicly available book etc. For instance if I wrote, "Dr. B.V. Raman in his Uttarakalamrita translation mentions about attributes of houses" (Fictitious example, just for this posting!), no one would mind that such information was shared in a public forum. I hope?

Love, Light, Learning,
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