In this world, the fate we can not change, because they are constantly in the awakened state are in the matter, then a fate already painted in advance, then why do these magical talismans if they are meaningless?
I understand and accept this fate. And here it will instill the faith which you have not already, through the already written in advance of your karma where you do the ring and think that this is what they will prevent a nuisance in life?
So God teaches you to believe, with the carrot and stick. And not just better to accept God and reject unnecessary rituals, and even at this low level magic, and then for himself instead of getting into trouble and more from the consequences of this fate, which refines the use of magical powers?



Culture is the truth, in any form of its manifestation, and ignorance, it presupposes the concept of culture of the mind. (Jo1951)

I assume you with Fate mean Predetermination, or what we are supposed to do, or end up in life.

I will copy and paste something I wrote in General discussion, but first will I give you a thought.

If NOTHING can be changed in our Fate, what is then the reason for any discussion? What is reason for any Education? What is reason for job or Money?...Since we can't change our Fate..then there is no reason to pursue anything of the above.... you M U S T reach your fate if you sleep the whole time...or IF you work 24hours a day...since it is our Fate, it can't be changed with such small things as that above.....
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If YOUR statement is true, then all legal systems all over the world must be put down, because every law build on the assumption that there is a FREE WILL.

If there is NO FREE WILL, then no one can be judged for their actions!

If you say there is is a TINY BIT of FREE WILL present, then Predestination will collapse because the complexity of 7 billion people, together with all our machinery, buildings, nature, predators, germs, "you name it" will make it impossible to micro control the outcome on a single native, and if you can't control every single one...then you can't control none....you just hit the nail now and then, without that become any proof.

The only Predestination we can agree upon is DEATH!...........and lucky enough...we NEVER know when......if we our-self don't interfere.

If you don't agree, then we must stop calling

Terrorist for terrorist....they only fulfill a Predetermination

A Murderer is only one who fulfill his/her task in life....how can we justify to judge him/her...are we above the Universe?

One who become raped...is only done so, because Universe would like to see it done...not because the rapist would have own satisfaction....how can we judge him or her?

War is not made by Man, but by the universe, because Universe would like to decrease some of our numbers.

Car crash is not because of bad driving...it is the will of the Universe.

A plane that crash, or a ship that sink, is only a result of the Universes plan.

and we can go on....but I assume you can see the picture.......but let us not forget.....all of those who involved had it as predestination by birth.....and other who had other predestination would not suffer in war, terror, hunger,you name it.......it is easy to say.......but not so easy to believe ....for me...
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So maybe your "PROOF" about FATE build on your BELIEF, and then YOUR is Belief equal any other BELIEF...A BELIEF and NOT a PROOFF, and by that you shall respect others opinions, and by discussions try to convince them that you are right, which I have tried to do with my understanding of Fate/predetermination.

No, I am NOT an Astrologer, and by that I have very good reason to ask question....to point out weakness....to NOT be blindfolded by a belief....but to rather see the result, and to use the mind for fresh thoughts instead of old Dogmas...so if that is your reason to be ashamed of me, then so be it.



So, It is NOT You and me that discuss....It is NOT our opinions and belief that is discussed, BUT Rather some Astral forces that control our minds......for what reason?...for what purposes?...if Fate is FIRM, then our discussion has NO impact whatsoever....if the Fate is NOT firm...then maybe our discussion has some value....because then a force can change the outcome....and what force is the STRONGEST one in any Human....His Belief......but since there is NO REAL BELIEF CONFIRMED TO BE THE RIGHT ONE....all beliefs are good as long as they promote own development, and satisfaction. If the belief don't give that, then maybe the Belief aren't the right one for You, and by your FREE WILL you can change, as long as you honor the societies rules.
The stronger our Belief become, the less we are able to evaluate opposite opinions, we are less able to ask questions about own belief, we are blindfolded...and we become the sheep!



Since I, and so also You, don't control our own thoughts, but it is done by Astral forces....none of us need to understand or lie to each other....we are only a vessel for Astral games with no WILL of our own!
On the other hand...if our thoughts comes from our own mind...then we must have a will to do it.we must even have a will to write or say it....we must have a will to fight for our belief.....which would not have been necessary with your statement...and that Will is called "Free will" NOT imposed by Astral forces or any God!



I so Agree, BUT a smart God would do it, and hopefully we can agree that a God must be smarter then You or me.

If we have no Will of our own, then we are nothing but a  SLAVE, Is that what you say ? That we all shall be slaves? What purpose has God with that?
Why have GOD almost destroyed Nature with help of Humans? Why is God hunting Animals to extinction? Why is he putting up trophies over the fireplace? Why did he use the Atomic Bomb? Why did he destroy Chernobyl? Why ...Why....Why???

Since I assume you are one of those who have a very strong belief, I withstand to continue our discussion until the blindfold can be lifted.....I respect your Belief....But I disagree strongly in it!

Rhutobello. Here I started to write you back and then began to doubt whether you need to know the truth, because the mind as an organ of deceit diametrically reason (truth), and resent being told the truth .. If you are ready to accept the truth without moral injury. To your mind, can I translate what I wrote and sent to the topic. But I think you will soon have the truth, you have the material mind, which would not look like from any angle a fresh look at the world, will always be only the mind, and the prophets and God Himself to me personally to say that "the mind idiot" because the mind does three-dimensional world and goes as he mentally ill in a madhouse in a circle. This is repeated on the nature of its material terms. And he called his ignorance of fools who degenerates from the error and has already taken on faith in the heart of all its decisions. So maybe a better knowledge of the old prophets. But do not mistake the new lower level coming, because development itself still has the old, because with the old in this world, yet clean it all began development of the higher levels of truth and came to your levels of the mind, or lies.
If you give good will and patience to the truth, I will translate what I wrote and send it to this topic, but I warn you, no offense, because the truth applies to the whole world and all societies, and I bude to explain from the perspective of the truth of who is who, and where his place at the levels of the Soul.



Culture is the truth, in any form of its manifestation, and ignorance, it presupposes the concept of culture of the mind. (Jo1951)

Hi Guys,

Please do not issue warnings/personal attacks........... Just Share.

RishiRahul