A astrologer needs various inputs sometime on the discusssion of chart. In this case therre are many discussion on the TV channels about why the coffin was bought 2 months in advance, and the timing of death of baba. Question had been raised , how can a  maha purusha say a lie about the death etc. There were comparison in TV channels , when great saints like Parahamsa, Sri Raghavendra,  did not ever utter about the death, how can Baba make such a statement and die before? These questions were not raised by an ordinary man, but my many Spritual leaders.

(quote)=Milind Ji, Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:33 am

Dear Govardhan, it good to see that more and more good questions are coming from you and I am sorry I forgot to comment on 3rd Saadhesaati in this case.

Firstly I will answer the Questions, then 3rd Saadhesaati and lastly probable Age of Death of Native.

***Question and Answers***
1. Rahu is placed in Gemini with Moon in 9th House. Since Rahu is Chhaya Graha (Shadow Planet), normally it works as supportive boosting force to main Planet in whch he is in Union. But in this case the other Planet is Moon---Rahu is Arch Rival. So here it will poison the Moon---So the good effects of Moon will be diluted. But Rahu will be powerful and Exhalted.

2. While we speak about Neech bhanga it clearly means that one Planet is completely Debiliated and One is Fully Exhalted in  Union (preferably) or Kendra Yoga. But in this case Mars is Aries and that too Retrogade, so power of Mars is less, I will not call that Mars as Exhalted. In my opinion this Rajyoga is questionable and not so powerful.

E.g. - If I mistake not, in SACHIN TENDULKAR'S HOROSCOPE, Jupiter's Neechbhanga is done by Exhalted Mars and Exhalted Sun. The Mars is in Union with Jupiter while Sun is in Kendra  and Exhalted in Aries. It is a perfect example of Neechbhanga and in Native's case whole world knows who he is. Most important point of the Horoscope is that it has KAALSARPA YOGA.

3. Yes Exhalted Rahu does makes on Saintly, but that Rahu should be placed in 6th House where it shows miracles. Exhalted Rahu in 6th House means Exhalted Ketu in 12th House which is its own House and it becomes MOKSHA-KARAK. The single and non afflicted planet gives full effect to that House. Here Rahu is with its Enemy Moon---which is Karaka of Mind and it is poisoned. Not only that the Natural Benefic of 9th House is in 1-8 Combination with Rahu and Debiliated in 4th House. Such person may have Strange Religious Beleif.

In my opinion, Rahu should be placed in 6th or 4th or 10th House. Because main working force is Ketu, as far as spirituality is concered.

4. With the 10th Lord moon placed in 9th house that is Gemini along with Rahu aspected by Gyanakaraka ketu does this reflect his achievement in the Spiritual field. Yes this point is acceptable. Moon's own sign, cancer is 10th House i.e. KARMA STHANA and its owner is in 9th House--- So the Native will be Religious person and will gain popularity from his Religious and Social works. But still the Rahu has badly affected Moon and weaked the Effects of the House or else the Native would have been much more renowned. I mean very huge support.

General Rule - Remember, Popularity can be calulated from placement of Cancer Sign in Horoscope, as it is Natural Sign of Love, Mind, Social Status and Support.

Rahu and Ketu - Where ever they are placed the try to weaken effect of those Houses, so they are better in Bad Houses like 6th or 12th. I deliberatly neglected 3rd and 8th House as their effects in those Houses are mostly very bad and in Rahu's Dasa, they are worst beyond Imagination.


***3rd Saadhesaati***
In this partcular 3rd Saadhesaati, I don't see any Bad Effects or Death of the Native. But surely Native has Health Problems related to Bones, Eyes and Loss Memory and Loss of Temper. But Saturn's Next movements will be bad, i mean in coming Signs. Normally Saturn gives least bad effects to Air Signs (Gemini, Libra and Aquarius).


***Age of Death of Native***

FIRSTLY I PRAY GOD THAT MY READING SHOULD GO WRONG AS ONE SHOULD NOT PREDICT DEATH OF OTHER.

But since it is for Knowledge and Education of fellow people, I will give a brief Idea about that and How to calcualte it.

1. Death can be calculated through Gochara Saturn with its combinations with Horoscope's Saturn, Sun and Planets which are Badly Affected.
2. Owner of 8th House and its Combinations with other Planets.
3. Dasas.
4. 8th House's 6th/8th House and related Combinations.
5. Ashtak-Varga Calcuations.
6. Nakshatras in 8th House

In this case, Lord of 8th House is Venus, which is in Union with  Aatma-Karak Sun and Mrityu-Karak Saturn in 2nd House, So this House (2nd) has got Greater Importance. The Sun and the Saturn are in very close Union and Retrogade Mars is in 1-6 Combination so cause of Death will be breaking of Bones/Heart Attack.

Now Saturn, Sun, Venus and Mercury (Retrogade) are in 2nd House which is opposite to 8th House (House of Death), here Planets like Saturn or Venus make Native to quitely wait for their Death. Native becomes very practical about thhe Death and just waits for His/Her last time.

Dasa of Sun starts in Jan 2008 and ends in Jan 2014, in between that Saturn Antar Dasa comes in Dec 2010 till Nov 2011. this Saturn Dasa would be last of the Native. If we go by planetary conditions by that time Saturn is in Virgo and Libraforming all bad Yogas with Mars and 3rd Aspect of Gochara Saturn in Virgo on 2nd house Planets.

Only Planet which can save the Native is Jupiter but it is in Debiliated condition again in Moksha Trikona. So support from Jupiter is almost negligible.

So roughly we can say Saturn in Virgo or Libra will be last time of the Native.

Cause of Death - Native will break his Back/Leg and will be bed ridden for some while and then will die in Sleep (Comma) because of Heart Attack. this is beacuse, Retrogade Mars will form Bad Yoga with Gochara Saturn and Mercury being Lord of 9th House - House of Sleep and Dreams, with Saturn in Horoscope, that to in 8th Sign and Retrogade will give Death in Sleep.

*** Ashtak - varga can calculate death of a person. Dr. Narayanadatta "SHRIMALI" ji used to use this method to calculate death. In his opinion each Line/Bindu of Planets of Horoscope in Ashtakvarga contribute to total life of the Native.

In this case it comes to 82 Years and 50 days (Age of death).

I'm not sure of it. Let us see.

***Nakshtra Method - Find the Nakshatras in 8th House, count their no. in Zodiac, when the addition of the Age comes to that no. Native will die.

In this case, Rohini or Mruga i.e. 4 and 5th Nakshatras are there, so when Native's Age's total comes to 4 or 5 Native will die.
So at the Age of 85 = 8+5=13=4. So 85 could be tentative year of death Similarly 86 could also be the Age of Death.

The main flaw in this system is that it does not give clear idea about the Age as after every 9 figures we get a new Age of death. It has got a little mathematical practical importance. Thats it.


BUT MOSTLY NATIVE'S AGE AT THE TIME OF DEATH WILL BE 86. BUT SURELY BEYOND 88 IS NOT POSSIBLE.

"I WISH GOD AGAIN TO MAKE THIS READING WRONG."
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I request everyone not to make prediction of Death though you can clearly see it. You can warn the person about the problem or make him/her to take some serious steps about the problem. But please don't tell it to anyone.

Please avoid it or simply say that I don't know about it. As your one sentence can change so many lives.

So please do not do that.

God Bless Everyone!!! =(quote)









Dear Milind Ji,

Wow! What a Amazing Prediction!

On the Humanitarian grounds  I should not feel happy  reading your predictions which has come true  now.  But  at the same time   I could see the greatness of  Vedic Astrology and the superb analysis of yours over the  chart of   Sri Sathaya Sai Baba  ( about the actual facts or  doubt on his Guruhood) I used  to read your old posts earlier too , as I  have joined only in the year 2008 in Mystic aboard. Thanks for sharing your wonderful astrological Knowledge with all  of us.


Regards,

Its not a prediction that I should have done. Hence I repeatedly wrote the same "It should go wrong", but it did not. I just tried what Vedic Astrology taught us. But everything including Birth and Death are at the hands of the almighty. Our ancestors have developed this science but it was not transferred completely to us due to various reasons in last 5000 years.  

I think mysticboard is the place where each of us should contribute towards strengthening this movement of knowledge and nurture this for our future generations.

*** The reading that I made was purely for the sake research towards astrology. I feel bad for the devotees of the Godman. May rest in Peace!!!

I too agree with u Milind Ji. I should not have called it  a prediction, rather it is an analysis only. . " May his soul rest peace."


I  am also a Shirdi Sai  , devotee like u and I  do visit Shirdi often as u do . To me Sai Baba  means  ie , only Shirdi Sai. who is  the real Godman and Guru. No doubt about it.

I whole heatedly wish  and request all experts like ,  You , Govardhan ji  , Rishi ji ,  Avam ji, Rajeev ji, Vivek ji,  Astroschlor , should  share more their  knowledge , so that we all  can be  benefited  .

Now a days I could see very few like us participating in discussions.  Avam ji, Rajeev ji, Vivek ji,  Astroschlor, ChanDubai , Raman ,  Asro, Certain , Babulupmg ji, Suryanarayan Ji  Msbrs ji  where are you All?



 "I think mysticboard is the place where each of us should contribute towards strengthening this movement of knowledge and nurture this for our future generations.

I am also expecting the same from Co Astrologers here. Thanks once again.


Regards,

Hi Suzi,

Thanks for your help. We are not quarreling here for our rights . As a moderator of this board I posted my objection  over the transfer of that particular post  to the   hidden area called Thread jail. Me,  Dhan  ji, Rishi ji, Milind ji, &  Pravin ji are great  friends always and feel we belong to same Mystic family ever. . I objected only the action of Moderator Rishi  ji here and Dhan ji and Milind ji too  asked  for the  reasons only,  of the missing of our posts . That's  all . There is no enmity among us in our hearts.

I would like the thread to be brought back to the vedic forum and could be merged with the new thread if feel necessary, with due respect to the other moderator. This  is my suggestion to u as a Co Moderator of this site. Thanks a lot . I think u might have understood reading our  previous posts above here,  the exact wish of us clearly I do suppose ,  do  hope and trust too.  


Regards,

Prasanna.

Site-Co-Moderator.