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Posts: 4815 · Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:57 pm

Hey Rhuto

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I absolutely agree with what you said. I only added an additional point by mentioning the above.

RishiRahul

Posts: 4815 · Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:02 pm

ranger wrote:

Surely there should be forgivable karma ( Karma that can get canceled due consistent good deeds ).
If karma and fate are almost same one snapshot in our first birth in sansara(life chakra -- birth , death and rebirth) leads to the next,
and the karma associated with that life(second birth), directly link to first(no free will)( what happens to karma associated with second – are they accumulated?
If so are they made from free will?, if it is free will is there fixed fate?

If you understand there is no fixed fate it can trigger a chain reaction enlightening.

When a 2 trees take birth in similar places, do they both suffer the same fate, even if the agricultural conditions are same.

Their destiny's are dependent on many other things, which we may or may not be dependent on. Isn't it.

Destiny and karma cannot be equated in lifetime.

Maybe, if we have more lives a balance could be struck. So let us not bother too much about it and try to do our karma to our best, intelligently in THIS LIFE.

RishiRahul

Posts: 71 · Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:44 pm

Rhutobello wrote:

ranger wrote:

Very interesting,
In my case 1000 stories within that one story. I do have a story mind you. I do no longer ask WHHHY? On a impulsive manner and can you tell me why? Is that CMY or anything else shed light please

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It is very simple, and it only takes a calm moment to figure it out!

When you ask "Why", then you are bound to think...to evaluate...to use "YOUR BRAIN" to control what is said to you...to evaluate if you find it truth or false.

By only accepting what other people, traditions, scriptures tells you, you accept their truth...but you haven't got your inner truth because you haven't evaluated.

If we always shall accept what is told us as truth "as our truth", then we still would have lived in stone age.
The first Human on earth had a truth about thing...if he passed this along to the next..and so on...then you would receive this truth today...and live in Stone Age.

Because some People don't only accept others TRUTH as Theirs TRUTH ,but ask WHY, if it then change...other Truths are formed...we understand more...and we can with Pride say...
U R RIGHT , BUT IM NOT WRONG......
because I have formed my own opinion, and that opinion is right for me!

On the other hand, I am NOT saying that every "Truth" need to be changed by the one who ask "Why"...he/she might find that the Truth speaks to him/her, but then he/she own this truth, and don't only accept it because other sources says so, or because this is the way we always have done it.

So you go ahead...forget the Why...and live on all others truth....if that makes you Happy, but you will show little or no progress in new ways of creative thinking

Dear Rhuto,
The truths we talk about are the truths that exist and tested by time if they don’t fail they may be said to have some universal value.
Some truths get berried with time but then re-mergers after a lapse. Truths are what we find as the norms or a darmatha obviously within human sphere of knowledge.
Some truths change with time even Ishiware thinking falls in to this category (some percentage) what they said no longer holds true. Even social cultural norms change and so does astrology if it does not evolve with time it will get obsolete so there will be need to constantly do research and I can understand what Raman Ji was tying to do. Research need scientific metrologies. For example if we try to reverse engineer some people with certain traits and relationship it had with there fate – say suicide [how did we select the sample was it randomly] [How many ended in the fate without a trait] [how many had the trait sans the fate] etc.? But there initiatives must be commended. Sometimes we forget to commend but show short comings. But it must be taken positively without crying fowl.
I agree 1000 times that by discussing these topics we re-enforce our own beliefs which helps us better astrologers.
Take for instance a Doctor, if he just used his theory he would end nowhere the illness can be very hard to diagnose no matter how much theory you know. You need second opinions. Group discussions are done among them. Medical Journals are read why to get updated and share.
It is exactly that we do here too.

Regards Ranger

Posts: 71 · Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:52 pm

RishiRahul wrote:

ranger wrote:

Surely there should be forgivable karma ( Karma that can get canceled due consistent good deeds ).
If karma and fate are almost same one snapshot in our first birth in sansara(life chakra -- birth , death and rebirth) leads to the next,
and the karma associated with that life(second birth), directly link to first(no free will)( what happens to karma associated with second – are they accumulated?
If so are they made from free will?, if it is free will is there fixed fate?

If you understand there is no fixed fate it can trigger a chain reaction enlightening.

When a 2 trees take birth in similar places, do they both suffer the same fate, even if the agricultural conditions are same.

Their destiny's are dependent on many other things, which we may or may not be dependent on. Isn't it.

Destiny and karma cannot be equated in lifetime.

Maybe, if we have more lives a balance could be struck. So let us not bother too much about it and try to do our karma to our best, intelligently in THIS LIFE.

RishiRahul

Sometimes I wonder I knew these truths then too but why did not it sync then should it coincide with chance before it takes its effect. I mean knowing it and using it two things isn’t it?

Posts: 71 · Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:43 pm

Dear all
This question I wanted to ask at the CMY post, but thought more appropriate here, The topic is “Questions for all experts” I have plugged in here but I do not wish to call myself an expert so I think it is appropriate for me to ask WHY’s in here since I do not wish any undue gains (which want stick if I don’t deserve anyway). If some body says I am theoretical and rigid in my approach he or she has a certain point since I myself has acknowledged that I do not have practical knowledge. But yet who says that. Remember Astrology is not for the weak. I have observed[not studied] around 200 kendras. All my life..

Yet on the plus side I had the capacity to understand and apply what I read but still I am know expert for the first time I tried to predict or give my insight into somebody else chart in a forum I didn’t take my time but concentrated on few things in CMY
1. Placement of Lagna Lord
2. Placement depositor lagna lord
3. The Yoga
4. Sudarshan Chakra
5. Gunas (merits) and motivational implulses

But did I apply all of them correctly pertcularly 5.
Say my chart:
Moon (Mula) tasmic- kame
Passinate involvement (lack of)
Kuja (Uttara arshade) – rajasmic – mokshe
Reckless but motive is moksha
Moon + Kuja together what does it make
???
So far I had an idea But now I don’t know whether it holds true. Some of you may not gain much while for me I am learning. I mean there lot ways you put this into words so far what did was use my experience and my chart to deduct. But surely there must be certain guideline. Or is it entirely on our own intuitive powers.
I know that when certain trait mentioned more than once in a chart it gives insight
Planetory placement also give some insight
But how to interpret this Gunas and motivational implulses ex:
Moon (Mula) tasmic- kame  Passinate involvement (lack of)
Is this correct is there any rules
Perticularly combining these Gunas and motives specialy in a Yoga
Regards Ranger