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Raman Deep Singh
Raman
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:22 pm |
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I went through Prasna Marga (Niryana sani, jupiter etc). So much permutations. Dont know which one to take.
Who said astrology can be learn by just going thru books...Thats y astrology is said to be a sadhna  you have learn to use the mentioned
permutations and understand the logic behind these permutations and not just remember them.
Regarding Sahams how will we find out Sahams?
sahamas are sensitive point as mentioned by babul ji and are
mentioned in many standard texts. Their calculation depends
upon degrees of diferent planets or lagna.
Regards,
Raman
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Dear Babulji and Ramanji
I went through Prasna Marga (Niryana sani, jupiter etc). So much permutations. Dont know which one to take.
A simple doubt. When we say a house or planet is aspected, what type of aspect it mean usually?
Regarding Sahams how will we find out Sahams?
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babulupmg
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:55 pm |
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LONGEVITY AS PER
KRISHNA MURTHY PADDHATHI
Even in K.P. it is necessary to consider 1,3,8,12, 2 and 7 houses besides badhaka palces according to chara Sthira and Ubhaya classification.
If the sub lords of 1st, 3rd and 8th houses signify 2 , 7 and badhaka palces, it denotes Alpayurdaya (short life).
If the sub lords of 1st, 3rd and 8th housses signify marakasthana as well as the bhavas which cause long life then it causes Madhyayush(Medium life).
If the sub lords of 1st, 3rd and 8th houses signify 1,3,5,8 and 9 and 11 housess (not being badhaka planets), it gives long life.
Nature of death
If Ravi is the death inflicting planet in a chart then the death may happen through fire, vehicle accidents.
If Chandra is the death inflicting planet in a chart then the death may happen through drowning, stampad or natural disaster.
If Kuja is the death inflicting planet in a chart then unexpected, violent, death or death by weapons or deadly instruments may be predicted.
If Budha is the death inflicting planet in a chart then the death may happen through windy complaints or falling from elevated place.
If Guru is the death inflicting planet in a chart then the death cause may be fever, indigestion, fat, and anayasamaranam.
If Sukra is the death inflicting planet in a chart then the death may be expected by disease in generative organs, sexual diseases and prameha.
If Sani is the death inflicting planet in a chart then the death by diseases of bones, punishment and the disease may be chronic one.
If Rahu is the death inflicting planet in a chart then the death may come by poison, imprisonment and complicated diseases.
If the 8th cusp sub lord is in a firy sign then violent death may be expected.
If the 8th cusp sub lord occupies an earthy sign the cause of death may be natural disaster such as earth quake or building collapse etc.
If the 8th cusp sub lord is in an airy sign the death may be caused by air crash, wind complaint.
If the 8th cusp sub lord is in a watery sign death is by watery diseases or drowning etc.
Place of Death
If the star lord of the eighth house cuspal sub lord is in 4,10 houses the death may take place in his native place, own residence or working place.
3rd house near tohis residence.
6,8,12 houses Hospital or in a distant place.
9th house in journey or unfamiliar place.
5 11 houses at the places where auspicious deeds are being done.
2 7 and badhaka places ordinary death.
Unnatural Death
The 1st cusp sub lord should be connected with 8th and 12th houses and at the same time the sub and star lords of 8th house be in Mesha, Vrisha, Simha,Vrischika,Dhanus or Makara signs.
In the sub-sub, sub, major periods of the planets which are connected with 1st and 8th houses death may take place. Then the lords of the sub and sub-sub periods must be connected to Maraka and Badhaka lords.
Particularly they should be 8th cusp sign-star-sub lords or Star lord of the 8th cuspal sub lord.
In a horary chart, the sign,star,sub lords of 1st or 8th houses signify the badhaka or maraca houses, death is inevitable.
The gochara also is to be checked.
If the 8th cusp sub lord is the significator of 1,6,7,8,10 and 12 houses and connected to Kuja and Sani, it may cause death by suicide.
EXAMPLE
On 4th Feb., 1985, one of my friends asked me to study his friend’s horoscope, who was in bed for more than one month.
We both went to his house. After the introduction and other things are over, I asked for his horoscope. I was told by the family members that they don’t know even his birth particulars.
Then as usual I asked the patient to choose a random number between 1-249. He selected 243.
Next day i.e., 5th Feb.,1985 at 10.30 p.m. I began to work. Those days we don’t have computers and soft wares.
Based on KP ephemeris and Astrological table of houses published from Hariman Book publishers from Madras I prepared the chart.
As per KP if 1st cusp sub lord signifies Maraka and Badhaka houses it causes early death.
Here Ven the 1st and 6th sl situated in Sat star. So we can assume that the disease is a chronic one.
Sat and Ket are in 8th house. Sun Merc Ven and Sat are Malefics for Pisces Lagna.
As Asc is Dual sign the 7th house from it, Kanya becomes Badhaka house besides being Maraka house. So Merc is the Marakadhipathi and Badhkadhipathi.
The planets deposited in the stars of planets who are in maraka and badhaka houses,
Or the planets who are in the houses,
Or conjoined with those planets,
Or the planets who are in the stars of lords, of these houses, cause death.
Here the badhaka sthana is Kanya. Its lord is Budha. Budha is in Moon’s star Sravana in Sat Rasi Makara and and in the Sub of Rahu. Budha is with Ravi Guru.
Let us consider RP. That is Tuesday. Lagna is Kanya. Star is Aslesha. Rasi is Karka.
Day lord Kuja, Sign lord Moon , Star Lord Budha, Lagna Lord Budha and lagna star lord is Kuja.
Thus Mars,Moon,Merc becomes the ruling planets.
Let us study the dasas. Then Rahu Bhukthi in Budha Mahadsa is running. Anthara belongs to Ketu.(upto 3rd March).
Kuja is 2nd Bhava Lord and Rahu being there represents Mars. Ketu Represents Ven the lord of 8th house and signifying 3,8,12 houses.
1st star lord is Merc and Sub lord is Ven.
3rd star lord is Moo and Sub lord is Ket.
6th star lord is Ven and Sub lord is Ven.
8th star lord is Jup and Sub lord is Sat.
12th star lord is Rah and Sub lord is Merc.
Here Ket as the representative of Ven caused death in sub sub period. So I predicted that the patient may breath his lost before March, 1985.
Actually his death took place on 27th Feb.,1985.
The day was Wednesday. Star was Rohini. Asc was Sagitt. Dasa was Merc Rahu Rahu Ketu.
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babulupmg
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:26 pm |
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Life Span and Unnatural death
At first we have to consider a person’s life span and then only ascertain which planet causes death and its dasa (time of death) then should be confirmed.
To predict death we consider the 1st,3rd,and 8th houses from lagna and 12th houses there from.
Chandra sign also is very important like Lagna. The houses, their lords, their occupants and death karakas to be verified. We can classify the death inflicting planets into three. Primary, Secondary and temporary determinants. The malefic planets connected with 2 and 7 houses
stand as Primary death causing ones. The benefic planets connected with these 2 and 7 houses, the planets connected with 3rd and 8th houses become secondary death causing planets. The weakest planet in the chart, the lords of 6th and 8th houses, Sani connected with the primary or secondary category death inflicting planets stand as third category.
The strongest among the above mentioned planets can cause death. The planet connected to the 8th house (being its lord or by aspect or situation, association), the lord of 22nd drekkana, the lord of 64th navamsa, and the strongest enemy of 8th lord.
5th house represents success, 9th house represents origin, 8th house represents death. 5th of 8th is 12th house. 9th of 8th is 4th house. Therefore when the 4th and 12th houses from lagna are afflicted heavily, one may have unnatural death.
Kendras of the 4th lord should be occupied or aspected by Sani, Ketu, Kuja and trika lords.
When only the 4th lord is afflicted, the native may meet a violent accident or may suffer from serious illness in his life time.
1. Lagna, lagna lord, the Moon, the Sun are most important factors. When these are seriously afflicted unnatural death may be predicted.
2. The nature of death can be judged from the 8th house, 8th lord, 22nd drekkana and its lord from lagna as well as from the Moon.
3. Lords of 64th navamsa from lagna and Moon got the power of inflicting the death.
4. The powerful and strong among the below listed planets give death in their dasa and vidasas. The 8th lord, planets in the 8th house, planets aspecting the 8th house, planets conjoined with 8th lord, planet which is bitter enemy of the 8th lord, (the planets any how connected with the 8th house), the lord of 22nd drekkana from lagna.
5. Kuja, Sani, Rahu and Ketu play an important role in causing unnatural death.
6. The benefics which are in the stars of Mars, Rahu, Ketu and Sat, and connected with death inflicting zones will kill silently.
7. The dasa and vidasas of the planets related to 6th, 8th and 12 houses denote and cause accidents. The connection of the above said malefics may prove fatal whereas the benefics like Guru or Sukra will give minor accidents. If there are strong benefics in Kendras less evil experiences are felt.
8. Planets connected to the 8th house indicate the cause of death.
The Sun: Fire, fever, bilious troubles, burns, accidents.
The Moon: Blood defects, drowning, watery diseases.
Mars: Weapons, sudden attack, violent death.
Mercury: Fever, smallpox, mental ailments.
Jup: Peaceful death (anayasa maranam), digestive troubles.
Venus: diseases in generative organs, degeneration of life force.
Sat: Hunger, diseases of chronic nature, abnormal habits.
Rahu acts like Sat and Ketu will give results like Mars.
Accident
Accidents occur during the major-sub periods of planets related to 6,8,12 houses, and major and
sub periods of maraka and badhaka lords or planets situated in these houses.
The planets which cause these accidents are Sani, Kuja, Rahu and Ketu.
Accidents may occur during the transit periods of the above malefic planets.
There are certain inauspicious muhurthas, tithis, Nakshtras and yogas which cause accidents during the journey.
Thus accidents occur in one or more of the conditions mentioned above. The severity depends upon the adverse nature of the planetary combination.
Further the accidents fall under two categories those which lead to injury and those which lead to death. The individual with good longevity if meets with accident escapes death with injury, otherwise he may lose life.
The airy, fiery, watery, earthy signs denote the cause of accident through air-crash, fire, water or on the ground.
If Sani occupies 8th house death due to cart accident.
If the 10th lord is connected to 4th lord, Sani is in 8th house with Ketu.
If 4th lord conjoined with Sani or Rahu and aspected by Kuja death caused by hit of stones.
D.O.B. 9.7.1973
16.10 31N28 76E19 died 15.08.1990
Lagna Vrischika, Rahu Dhanus, Guru Makara, Kuja Meena, Ravi Sani Ketu Mithuna, Budha Sukra Karka.
In this chart Sani the 4th lord is with Ketu and 10th lord Sun in 8th and aspected by Kuja.
In Jataka tatwa it is said that the 10th lord connected with 4th lord, Rahu or Sani aspected by Kuja there will be death from stone hitting. If Sani is in 8th accident by vehicle also is expected. He died in Rahu dasa Guru Bhukti.
If Kuja or weak Chandra influence the 8th house and its lord along with Ketu or the lord of the sign is occupied by Ketu the native dies through accidents.
If Ravi Kuja Sani Rah or Ketu occupy 10th or 5th house, then death happens by vehicle accident.
Lagna, 4th and 5th houses or their lords are centres of stronger malefic influences than 3rd and 9th houses the native meets accident while travelling.
Afflictions to the 3rd and 9th houses/or their lords in the birth charts (especially by 8th lord) are symptoms for travel disaster by air. The 8th lord with no connection with the 3rd lord/3rd house in the birth chart keeps life intact in spite of serious injuries in the disaster.
Sani in 8th and 4th lord in 6th indicate death while journeying.
The 4th house rules vehicles and 8th house longevity. If these two are related then accidents
happen. (related to the elements)
[size=9]Unnatural Time of Death[/size]
The unnatural death takes place at a time when critical dasa anthara operates.
1. The 2nd 7th lords are death causing planets. So their dasas and antharas are capable of abruptly ending the life.
2. Dasa of a planet preferably an evil lord posited in the 2nd house and anthara of another posited in the 7th house and vice versa can cause death.
3. Dasa of 2nd or 7th lords in the bhukti of their dispositors can also cause death.
4. Planets linked to the 2nd and 7th lords in their dasa and antharas may inflict death on the native.
5. An afflicted lagna lord in its own sub period in the period of its sign dispositors can give death like troubles.
6. As lord of 3rd , 10th 11th and situated among one of thee houses Sani gives number of sufferings.
7. Guru and Budha though benefic planets being the Kendra lords and having double angular lordship they cause death to the native in their sub periods through the period of suitable planet imbibed with similar malefic characteristics.
8. Rahu is the main killer in his own dasa and bhukti.
9. When any planet is in 2nd or 7th houses then the dispositors of these houses cause death with the help of occupants.
The luminaries and the lord of Lagna are called the tripods of Astrology. These three even when they get maraka powers become more or less evil but never kill, so say classical texts. The luminaries as lords of the 8th house do not become evil, lords of 8th houses are not evil, provided they own the lagna, lord of lagna is nowhere ranked as maraka.
Nevertheless, all these three have sometimes behaved as marakas, during their periods in defiance of the classical injunctions, of course when the class of longevity should permit them to take away life.
Murder or suicide.
Astrology can be used to know whether the death is due to suicide or murder. There are two different rules specifically indicating suicide or murder.
Chandra represents mind, Kuja indicates instant death and Ketu is the karaka for suicide or murder. When Chandra, Kuja, Ketu periods are operating and these planets are any way connected with maraka and badhaka sthanas or their lords, in Gochara also, the death by suicide takes place.
The report, which appeared on 4-7-1980 in ‘Hindustan Times’ says, that suicide attempts were made on Mondays and Tuesdays under the caption “Suicide prone on Mondays and Tuesdays”.
This supports our view that Chandra and Kuja are instigating factors for this type of death.
For murder, Kuja, Ketu and Sani are responsible. Here Chandra’s role is ignorable or negative
also sometimes. Besides these planets, 8th house, 8th lord, badhaka and maraka sthana lords also are to be considered. The dasa and antardasa also should be of these planets.
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babulupmg
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Chandra and Sadyorishta, Infant Mortality
8th bhava indicates longevity. If the lord of 8th joins the 12th with a malefic short life is indicated.
It will be the same if lagna lord joins 8th lord in 6th house.
Weak and waning Chandra in 12th and malefics in lagna and 8th house and no benefic planets in Kendras cause early death.
Weak and waning Chandra in Lagna not aspected by Benefic planets, if kendras or 8th house are occupied by malefics early death.
If Chandra got papakartari yoga and occupies 4th or 7h or 8th houses without benefic aspect causes early death.
The weak Chandra, in conjunction with malefics deposited in lagna,7th,8th or 12th house, and no single benefic in Kendra causes early death.
The weak and waning Chandra in 6th or 8th aspected by malefics causes early death.
If Chandra in lagna and Ravi, Kuja and Sani are in 7th early death is expected.
Chandra in lagna and in papakartari yoga and malefics in 7th or 8th houses causes death of the child as well as its mother.
Chandra with malefics in lagna or 7th or 8th or 12th houses, devoid of benefic position in Kendra, causes early death of the child.
If Sani occupies the 12th, Ravi the 9th house, Chandra Lagna, and Kuja the 8th house it causes early death of the child.
If the maraka planets are in exaltation, in moolatrikona or in swakshetra, its dasa or bhukti is dangerous.
Even Guru may occupy the lagna, but if Chandra be in 8, 12, 6th bhava and aspected by malefic, Rahu the child meets death.
If the rising sign and Chandra be devoid of benefic aspects and between two malefics cause balarishta
One must consider invariably the 8th,3rd,2nd and 7th houses for determining longevity.
The subject is divided into 4 groups. 1. Balarishta 2. Alpayu 3. Madyayu 4. Deerghayu.
Balarishta is of two kinds. Sadyorishta (Death immediately after birth) and Balarishta (Death within 12 years ).
1. Lagna is the body. Chandra is mind. Ravi is the soul. If these main centres of the body are afflicted by malefics the new born baby will not survive.
2. Lagna, its lord, Chandra and 8th should be considered. If a malefic in Ascendant afflicted by 8th lord and Chandra by the Ravi and Sani the child dies immediately.
3. Lagna lord in 6th makes the child weak, and affliction by 8th lord gives more troubles in its growth.
4. If Chandra or Ravi in Kendras afflicted by malefics, and their dispositors also are afflicted, the child will not at all survive.
5. The dispositors of Ravi, Chandra and Lagna and the cusps of 3rd and 8th also are to be checked.
6. The transit of planets over the above said five sensitive points gives clue the time and date of death.
7. The child dies within hours of birth if Chandra is in other than 3, 6, 10, 11 houses and lords of 1st and 8th houses and Ravi also is afflicted.
Even Guru may occupy the lagna, but if Chandra be in 8, 12, 6th bhava and aspected by malefic, Rahu the child meets death.
If the rising sign and Chandra be devoid of benefic aspects and between two malefics cause balarishta.
When all the planets are weak and occupy 3, 6, 9 or 12, or apoklima houses early death is noticed.
When Ravi and Chandra are posited in the 3rd house identical with malefic sign and in conjunction with a malefic in a nativity, he will fall ill and die before 3 years.
If Guru is in debilitation and birth is at mid day (Full Dark fortnight), the child dies in a month.
When waning Chandra occupies the rising sign and a malefic planet is in Kendra or in the 8th the child dies.
When Chandra occupies the rising sign, 6,8,12 places from it and is aspected by a malefic planet, without benefic aspect, Kendra kona are not occupied by benefics infant death is predicted.
When Sani occupies the 7th or the lagna itself and when rising sign is a watery one and Chandra occupies the lagna and the benfic planets are in Kendra the child dies early according yavanas.
If the two malefic planets occupy the lagna and the 7th and Chandra be in conjunction with a malefic planet and be not aspected by benefic one, the death of new born baby occurs.
When Chandra in conjunction with a malefic planet occupies the rising sign and is not aspected by benefic planets, these latter being in a position other than Kendra, death may take place.
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