Hi Everyone,

Forum is being very quiet. So thought of sharing something.
Atmakarakas(AK) this is quite a nice topic and known topic but people got different views and beliefs about it.

Here I am going to put up my view and what i have understood about them
and will request other members to put in their point of view in left over blanks.

AK is played by all planets but Ketu.Coz Rahu has same degree as ketu thus Rahu is considered for AK.

Here I will not argue about 7 or 8 charakara scheme but will just point out about them and their effect on native.

1.Sun:-
Generally, native with Sun as AK have a inner drive to take control of things.They try to dominate the matter, relationship or situation.And thus they have difficult time facing the situation where too much experience related to this pseudo EGO situation creates problem for them.Being the planet of highest degree it causes native to make initiative related to this quality and prefer situation where they can have lead or control over the situation.

2.Moon:-
These are very troubled souls   .These natives have too much of emotions in their life and they prefer everything around them to boil down to emotions. Even a little affliction to moon in the chart further deteriorates the situation. They have an inner knack for sympathy.
Still they like to be godfather or gpd mother of others even though they cant handle much of negativity.
Personally I feel Jupiters effect is very much required on especially moon to make situations bit better. But since this is property of AK thus they have to struggle with this thru out their life.

I wil continue to put in my views about other AKs and add on to existing ones
I wil request other members too to put in their comments and views

Regards,
Raman

Hey Raman


 For Moon as AK, wont it's  nature differ as per Shukla or Krishna Paksha ?.   I ask this cos  I have native whose born on Full moon day, with exalted Saturn (LL) aspecting it,   apart from afflictions from Mar. Yet  the native seems not be so much of troubled soul..  Any views ?


warmly
Asro

Hi Asro,
I dnt think that shukla or Krishna Paksha will effect moon's AK effect.
I have mentioned about them being troubled sould metaphorically

Though it is true that their being emotional part is quite true.

Regards,
Raman

3.
Venus :- Native with Venus AK generally have default inclination towards opposite sex. This happens in their point of view
for any topic . This is nothing to do with their opinion of sex OR negative or positive side of it.This is their inclination
regarding sex or sexual things as default and they can relate it very wel with things around them.

They also face trouble in straightening things in their life related to opposite sex and their own sexual inclinations.
The can be strong possibility that affliction to 5th house or venus in their chart can further escalate the trouble.

Regards,
Raman

Dear Raman ji

I had read sme articel on AK i dont remember exactly as it was long back

I would like to know your view

Below is my understanding

Since the world is atma + karaka should it be give more importance in D9 than rashi as D9 is more related to it for eg in rafal ji articel on ishta devta he too mentions there to find 12th from Karakamsa should be looked in

Correct me if i am wrong

Here is an extract from rath ji article i like to share for readers

Planets as Ätmakäraka:
1. SUN as the AK indicates that the native has to learn to overcome his ego and should become humble. The Sun
is the natural king and the deep desire to rule will manifest as leadership in various undertakings. A desire for
music is sure to be there and such natives should learn to play some musical instrument to canalize their
energies that could, in the negative, become very destructive. Instrumental music rejuvenates them and
depending on the nature of the sign this can relate to various instruments.

2. MOON as the AK indicates that the native should be very caring and compassionate. The Moon is the natural
mother and the home of such people is a manifestation of their inner self. Disorder at home or disturbed home
tends to disturb them even more. They tend to use a lot of glass. Music is their lifeblood, especially melodies
or any music where the lyrics are important message for their thirsty minds. They should learn to sing or hum
along a few songs that can revive them whenever mentally low.

3. MARS as the AK indicates that the native should refrain from all forms of violence and stick to the path of
ahimsa. Mars is the strength of the Kälapuruña and gives the ability for wielding weapons and person desires
to win battles and proves its strength. Such people are great fighters and will gradually realize the futility of
war mongering. They like martial arts and would prefer learning karate, kung fu and other forms of selfdefense.
In a more spiritual individual this can mean learning haöha yoga and other physical exercises to
remain strong and ever youthful. So long as these are practiced as a spiritual discipline like the monks of the
Çaolin temple, it is very good; else the karma can lead one to regret many mistakes caused by acts of violence.
The ultimate lesson in spirituality is that the ätma is indestructible and hence does not need any form of
physical protection. Violence is a manifestation of ones hatred towards other creatures and beings. Thus, the
truth lies in ahimsa or non-violence. Such natives should practice Zen and other forms of meditation and some
physical exercises like Tai Chi to canalize their excess energies.

4. MERCURY as AK indicates that the native should control his speech and be truthful at all times.

5. JUPITER as AK indicates that the native should always respect the Guru, husband and care for the children.

6. VENUS as AK indicates that the native must have a very clean character and refrain from illegimate sex or
lust.

7. SATURN as AK indicates that the native cannot give sorrow to others and will have to share the sorrow of
many others.

8. RAHU as AK indicates that the native may be cheated often and will still have to be free from guile and be
clean hearted.

As you men abt 7 8 scheme both the schemes are relevant to Jyotiña and the seven-planet carakäraka scheme is to be used for the
non-living creation whereas the eight-planet carakäraka scheme that includes Rahu (planet of desire and rebirth) is
to be used for all living beings.

Regards

Swapnil