Hi,

I had thought that I wouldn't intrude in this topic, but there is a misunderstanding around.

Just wanted to relay the meaning of Vairagya.

The sense means dispassion, detachment. There is a logical order in the four means. After sufficient practice of viveka, the temporary, ephemeral nature of the world and its objects becomes obvious and a natural lack of attraction to them takes place.

Human existence in the material world leads to suffering (besides the usual other good/material adjectives prevalent we find it difficult to do without). Certainly I am not departing from Vedic astrology or Philosophy/thought.

So obviously we humans would like to do away from this suffering... that is leading towards vairagya ..... our aim, without knowing it consciously enough. Because our general perception of Vairagya is similar to clibacy... but it is not Actually.

Again it is also said (Vedic thought) that Free will and destiny are not exactly different/separate entirely.

The example given by Raman in the above quote is not a perfect one, as it has no proof.... I mean the story.

Free will exists very much, but probably not the way we expect it to!!??

RishiRahul

P.S: I repeat that I am talking about the 'Free Will' in regards to Vedic thinking.
Also considering that Ramakrishna Paramahamsa ji's example of the goat tied to the tree ( as an example of free will) should have an acceptable meaning.     Hope he is Right Guys!   If he is How is he right?

Hi Rishirahul ji,
For a sense of proof i am adding here link from KN Rao ji's site, who i dont think need to proove the existense of astrology or his caliber which is defintely undoubtful, mainly coz of reason that he was ONLY astrologer who defended astrology in the apex court in india and prooved its existence single handedly and since journal of astrology is very much part of him, this link shud be quite true .

http://www.journalofastrology.com/archives/Dialouge%20with%20Bhrigu%20Rishi%20through%20a%20Medium.htm

Also personally I do not doubt existence of Free will but YES not the way we believe it to be.And secondly we shud realise that destiny and free will r 2 sides of same coin which CO-EXIST.sole indepence is not there between them.This is my personal belief


Regards,
Raman

You can go through the article available at the following link:

.... the link edited here goes to a website which may indirectly go to your proposed link after a lot of searches. So better you post the matter/thinking for easy sharing.........

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Just as a curiosity....there is no proof for one way or another.....but one way promote that fate shall give you everything...that if you wait until the star is in right position then everything will improve...they tell what you shall educate for...when to marry..if you get divorces...how many children..the other say...take responsibility for your own life...try to better it by fighting today..to look for possibilities where you live....to show personal initiative, to make the best out of your life ,and not let other control it!

I am fully aware that none of us can put forward proof, but I am sure what option I will chose

since we have other thread for fate and free will discussion it would be better if actual research topics are discussed in this thread. So that people don't get fooled by the name of thread.

Regards,
Gs