Ramandeep Singh ji no offence intended what you are suggesting is no less virtual for todays' time .Now-a-days hardly 5 people wud u find who might have casued some deception to their guru.Now a days relationship between guru and shishya is different...and no I am not taking a dig on either gurus or shishyas.I have been guru and shishya both in my life time.This is a different time period so everything is different and is genuine.When I became a guru I remembered this fact always that I am not some great sage Vashishtha or Vishwamitra without whom my student wud have lesser virtuous life.I knew this thing even when I was shishya and that stands for everyone now.And interactions between guru and shishya doesnt have option for shishya to harm him or deceive him in that sense.What can my students do to me?If any students does a bad behaviour , every guru gives less marks to him ...doesnt leave him for his next birth to get a guru chandala yoga. ...:D

Hi certain ji(i know this is not ur real name but it just slipped out of my mind right now and i really dont hae enough energy coz i m really sleepy to look for it i hope u wont mind that:) )

Rightly said by you about GURU-SHISHYA  thing in your reply but i think u did not go through my reply properly but still im happy to get your reply.

I mentioned in my reply about :-

GURU or guradian or the one who has always supportd him once
in life time

Thus though u r right about almost non existence of that level of sincerity of guru shihsya thing but wat about other 2 options which i have mentioned..
Guardians... i have seen people with guru-chadaal yoga deceiving their parents, their local guardians.. people who have helped them climb up the ladder of success getting betrayed by the natives with guru-chadaal yoga.

I have noticed deceptons of parents by these natives even though sometimes they r not tat bad a person but at that very moment they have to deceive them WITHOUT any regrets later..
I hope u have got my points

Regards,
Raman

Know what my dad has guru chandala yoga and he has been best of a possible son all his life so much that out of 8 children my grand parents were taken a very good care of by dad only.He has Guru chandala yoga with moon so it is guru , moon and Rahu together in cancer sign on fifth house ...my dad is an angel in real sense of word with very strong moral values and a real intellectual.....unagressive despite of Rahus' position on 5th house and sound in calculations and considered as wise man even amongst his elders.yep he is running thru rahu s period and it gave trouble to childrens' happiness in life.I know couple more people with same dosha , all are really scrupulous (contrary to what logical calculations says).

Hello Certain ji,
I cannot comment on anything at personal level. But what Im saying is based on my experience and what I have
read till now.And yes i do respect words of KN Rao ji alot coz of his habbit of being skeptic and based words on
statistics

Also deceiving may not be right term to be used for GCY but rather giving disgracing or degrading outlook towards your guardian/guru ..... may explain this rightly .. And this outlook may be coz of TOOO... MUCH  pride about native for him/herself for growth which he/she has achieved.thus they over rate their outlook for themseleves..
And this can be explained with BLIND or unreasonable elevation of pride or pomposity for themseleves coz of placement of Guru with Rahu.And we all know  rahu can coz elevation .  

But I still repeat which I always do that ONE yoga be it KSY , KAY, GKY(gaja-kes..) or GCY and so on..
cannot decide effects on a native by itself.. All these yogas start playing part only after proper analysis of chart based on
basic principles of astrology FIRST and thus cant be the first thing to be noticed and start analysis.


Regards,
Raman

Hi Certain,

We all hold our Dad's in great and high Regard...  & Certainly so

Jupiter is the significator of the Guru factor. Rahu's association to it is certainly troublesome for the signification
Rahu stands for materialness (pardon my wrong english); also stands for greed and illusions.

Therefore Rahu's association to the Guru signification can cause some dis illusion regarding Guru.

There can be many Guru's/teachers in a lifetime. A native with Guru chandala yoga, can certainly get dis illusioned reding a particular Guru he/she had believed in once.

Jupiter is wisdom; whereas Rahu is away from that wisdom.. towards materiality an greed.

A person with Guruchandala yoga, can ONCE in his lifetime face this problem.

Of course I would love to believe.. and do believe that my dad has got only good karmas to his credit.

But does it actually happen?

No offense meant. Just rationalising.

RishiRahul