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Posts: 246 · Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:40 am

That is right... it is very logical.... but there is a big problem, like I said before, it seldom works....
In my humble experience I've always seen Transits to be more effective than dasas....(and I mean that specifically for the purpose of marriage, i do give the dasas a lot of importance otherwise)

You know whats the catch here... At any given time (and i am talking of Vimsottari dasa), there are five different planets acting at the same time via MahaD, AntaraD, PratyantraD, and so on....
So, to think of it, any of the 5 planets can be responsible for the marriage... Infact one of the ways I fine tune Time of Birth is to make sure that the lagnesh occurs amongst one of the 5 planets operating via dasa on the day of marriage.... afterall, its one of most important time of ones life and there has to be an involvement of self in there....

*** One of the things I want you guys to realise when thinking of deducing timing of marriage is not to find a time period in months or years, but to realise that its just that one day rather a few hours....thats what marriage is, a 2-3 hour long ceremony, and like i said before, in the Vimsottari scheme of things we've got 5 different planets making a statement and trust me its really hard to tell at times which of the 5 planets is actually responsible for the event to take place. Ofcourse, to reach to that one day, one has to start from bigger periods and narrow it down and transits have a wonderful way of doing that...
Sat and Jup narrow down the period to one year...
Mars narrows down the period to 45 days
Moon narrows down the period to 1 week

Now the question arises of the presence of multiple instances of this kind.... the answer remains in being able to deduce the in laying promise in a horoscope and believe me that can take many a life times to master... Haven't any of you come across people who can tell of certain events occuring in certain years for natives and trust me they don't go around calculating dasas or even transits for that matter... they are just well versed with some of the magical verses that we guys aren't even aware of.... ***

Food for thought eh!!!

Posts: 246 · Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:45 am

Certain wrote:

Ramandeep Singh ji , it goes everyway round actually.....
People have mahadasha supporting marraige in childhood but it doesnt happen.
As u said people have gochara drishti , even with dasha supporting in childhood , they still might not marry in most of situations...might give some romantic encounters
And after 23 or so as it is going on now a days.....even when dasha lord has nothing to do with marital bliss , antradasha lord may not have same but still marraiges take place after 23.It is impossible that everyone wud have apt dasha and antradasha right from 20-35 or whatever u consider marraigeable age.
What you said is absolutely right according to said principles of jyotish but I have never seen it in my observation about marraiges particularly...that is all I am saying and u can check it yourself.
I personally dont even keep gochara graha on chandra lagna like most people choose , i keep them on janma lagna and focus only on saturn jupiter ,rahu, ketu or keep in mind distinct features of karaka like exaltations or debilitation.It sets a lot closer to ...largely.
I do not want to advocate that I know any better than you guys.No way.
I have learnt lot many angles from all o f you.I belong to science stream which says that if you have noticed something ...always share with people ...for sake of mankind as your duty....might be someone better , more capable than me wud be able to extend this groudn work even a step ahead and push the envelope further.
For marraige venus , sun as early twnties, mars as 28 and saturn as 36 as major areas to work in ...more the number of afflictions .....later wud be date...whatever may be gochara or dasha until arudha promises multiple marraiges.That was about delay.
If Arudha says short lived marriages and multiple marraiges then you will have to focus on those times which fall "before" gochara rahu-ketu -saturn afflicts 1-7 house axis or seventh lord "(wrt Janma lagna , or at time chandra lagna).That wud be time of marraige cuz after marriage ,a very very shortly when these malefics afflict this axis in gochara becomes time of separation having no innate support from D1, wud lead to divorce.
During this time when u wud check dasha and antradasha only inimicals lords wud be operating , may not have any any connection with seventh house whatsoever.It worked 6-7 times out of 10. I am simply quoting what I have seen.Any rejection or criticism is wholeheartedly acceptable to me.
I will be back after some period of time now ,or might not , wud have to take an essential long-break for my project.
Regards and All the best to all of you.

That makes two of us Certain.... even I take gochara from the janam lagna... also, about the on going issue... u can read my other post... we seem to be on the same line...

Posts: 1431 · Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:54 am

ya i remeber that very well Sahil that u always use Gochar from lagna and so do i

...And u have mentioned this i think around 1.5 - 2 years ago in a post to me

.

Raman

Posts: 4815 · Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:06 am

Hey Certain and arian_1c,

I was not talikng of just Vimshootari Dasas, but there are so many other indicative dasas too. Certain and arian_1c hs certainly made the thread more interesting!!

Vimshottari dasa indicates the effects of collective events having an effect on a persons mind. While favorable transits indicates that you are facing results of good karma.

RishiRahul

P.S: Do be around with interesting postings as usual, Certainji.

Posts: 1431 · Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:33 am

Dear Rishirahul ji,
I have sen few cases where Venus and Saturn conjunction has lead to physical distance between a couple even though they are married for long tim but still not able to live together.
Though i wont say there is much of love between them like a real Romantic relationship but there r not together for long and resulted in love geting lost further.

Can u tell me why this love gets unsuccessful incase of 7th house mars coz if i retrospect in few cases of mars in 7th house wat u have said sems to be quite true

and wat makes this love relationship goes in vein,Is this again a temperamental problem of mangalik people of geting bored quite soon or wish for a CHANGE in relationship.Very Frankly i haven't seen ANY natives with 7th house mangalik to be a very romantic person.

may be im wrong coz i thnk even if they r romantic coz of 5th house relationship of Venus or some other condition but still their basic tendency of domination coz of 7th house mangal(im saying this very GENERALLY)to overlap that part of their romantic capability.Though we can also say they gona be romantically dominating

Rishirahul ji can we have any further points for this marriage so late and at Feb,2007 which could not be predicted well and i will request other members also to put their views..SAHIL and CERTAIN JI u also please put your points for marriage even if you gona consider GOCHAR for this .

Rishirahul ji,I do understand that you take help of hand prints for further clarification but consider it as a case where u dont have much of an option

of getting hand prints.As u have mentioned in your site too that hand prints are OPTIONAL

so think it as a case whre this option is not fulfilled.I hope im not bugging you much..LOL

Regards,
Raman
[quote="RishiRahul"]

Certain wrote:

RishiRahul wrote:

Rishirahul ji thanks for discussing it. Arudha Lagna is most fascinating topic of astrology and so is Navamsha .
If talk got started I wud kindly ask in reference here that what if saturn wud have conjucted venus (exalted or swagrahi )in navamsha , who wud have dominated in effect venus or saturn considering both are at par in D1.
My interpretation wud be, in that case Saturn wud get native marrying an old person or not a well respected one and then marriage wud always demand more sacrifice from native to have a smooth run (ofcourse I am considering in a situation when marriage is surviving ).

Rgds

Shriya

Hey Uncertainly Certain, (thats what Jyotish is too.. isnt it?)

Venus is warm planet signifying love, the warmth of love (of which sex in love is a part).

Saturn is the cold ice laid on love and the warmth of love.....it chills the warmth of love, and grates away the warm part of love/romance part.

In such a case mentioned by you, do you not think the natural malefic would dominate.. as we are talking in terms of the natural qualities of Venus and Saturn?

This would not mean that he would get married to an old person, thought it also could be so.

RishiRahul