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skorpion63


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Dear Raman,

Since you cannot access that site at the moment i am posting the content here

"The why, how and what of exaltation and debilitation of planets are not explained in any authoritative work of astrology.

The argument put forth by some is that the planet nearer to earth is potentially strong and hence is exalted. A study of the following dismisses that argument.

The distance and exaltation or debilitation of planets is not in any way connected. Then what is debilitation and exaltation of planets ?

Exaltation means being in high position, exhileration and strength. Debility means weakness, and humility .

The zodiac is the planetary cabinet. The first house or sign should be occupied by protocol by the King as the Ist citizen. Sun is the king of planetary cabinet. Hence he should be exalted on his thrown in the Ist sign Aries. A king enjoys power and position only when attended by the commander in chief Mars and the servant Saturn. Aries is the sign owned by Mars, the commander in chief of the planetary cabinet and Saturn the servant is debilitated (humbled) in Aries due to the authority of the King and the commander in chief. The King is attended on either side (Pisces and Taurus by Venus the courtesan and the Queen Moon).

The place next to the King shall go only to the Queen. Hence Moon is exalted in Taurus. Sun owns Leo and Moon owns Cancer and get exalted in Aries and Taurus respectively. Next to Queen no one can sit. Hence Gemini has neither exaltation or debilitation of any planet in it. Cancer is owned by the Queen (Queen's place) Moon. Jupiter is the preceptor and further has a respectable place in the Queen's palace when he visits Cancer. Hence Jupiter is exalted in Cancer. Mythologically Moon (as male disciple of Jupiter) has an episode with Tara, the wife of Jupiter, which culminated in the birth of a child Budha. Mars the commander in chief visits the Queen's palace to carry out the commands or run errands of the Queen. Hence he is debilitated in Cancer. In the King's palace of Leo no planet can be exalted. Hence free from exaltation or debilitation. Virgo is owned by Mercury. Mercury is the finance minister in the planetary cabinet hence exalted in Virgo. Venus the courtesan is debilitated in the house of the finance minister, personally visiting for financial aid. Libra is owned by courtesan (damsel). When the king visits the court damsel, naturally he is accompanied by the servant Saturn. In the house of a damsel the king looses his authority. Hence is debilitated in Libra. The servant Saturn is the master of the situation (arranging meeting of Damsel Venus and King Sun) and is exalted. Scorpio is owned by Mars. When Moon the Queen visits the quarters of subordinate commander in chief, she is humbled. Hence is debilitated in Scorpio. In the mansion of the Guru Jupiter no planet is exalted or debilitated. Capricorn is the quarters of the servant and soldier Saturn. Mars visits the barracks of soldier. He the commander in chief visits with authority. Hence is exalted. Jupiter the preceptor and prime minister by visiting the quarters of a servant looses his dignity and status.

Hence Jupiter is debilitated in the house of Saturn - Capricorn Aquarius also is owned by Saturn. There is no debility or exaltation of planets in it. Pisces is owned by Jupiter. Venus, the damsel, being in the house of respected Jupiter in the proximity of the king In Pisces naturally has power hence is exalted. Finance Minister, and in the proximity of the king is subdued of his authority and hence is debilitated in Pisces.

This is one line of explanation of exaltation and debilitation of planets on the basis of planet politics.
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Rohit
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Thank You Rohit ji
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dear Rohit,

        Thank u very much for posting this in detail. I know many points already but not the whole. Can u post the link of this episode? so that we all can read them in full .



with regards
prasanna
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Dear Votiveji,(quote)
The Simhasta Guru is the biggest religious congreggation at Mahakaaleshwar in Ujjain on the banks of Kshipra, now totally manmade it appears though. The ancient Ujjayini and the place of the Lord of Kaala has had a rich Jyotish parampara. It is often said that for almost the entire year when Guru is in Simha marriages are not solemnised, exactly the query of this topic.

                      I find your above views and my information about the celebration of Maha mkam in tamil nadu has the same link about our topic Simhastha  guru. As u said i have seen in ANdhra during certain  period they also avoid  conducting  marriages for the whole year, but i dont remember under which situation that is.
     

                  Thank u ROhit for posting the  link, it is very useful indeed.

I would like to ask our Rishiji, to explain the aspects of simhastha guru, relating to my question on Vargothama lagna and vargothama graha.

  I still believe we all are waiting for the answer about simhastha guru.


with regrds,

prasanna.

L, K L.
Nandini


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Dear Raman and RishiRahul ji,

I am a beginner and I do not know much about astrology. But I really don't think there is any significant "basic pattern of behaviour which jupiter will show when placed in simha" as Raman has put it - that can be applied to ALL charts. When we talk about Guru in Simha, at the back of our minds, we have an Aries rising chart and we are in a way talking about that.

The picture changes when the lagna changes and temporal friendships and ownership of malefic houses are taken into consideration, even when we are considering a natural benefic like Guru.

Also, not everyone of us resonate with the spirituality of a graha, even if it is Guru. Guru is a big graha and when we resonate simply to its physical considerations, it can be about size. We often come across people who are fat and chubby, love to eat, laugh a lot and have a good sense of humour. That to me is Jupiter well manifested in the world around us. It may have very little to do with wisdom or a teacher.

When we consider this position from Simha, Jupiter it is the 5th and the 8th Lord. (Note that I am already taking into consideration the house ownership of Guru. 5th and 8th lord placed in 1st.)

1. Both the 5th and the 8th houses are about creativity and it can signify a person who is capable of that.

2. It can also be about a long and chronic trouble (8th)  - his or that of his child (5th).

3. Both of the above and some more.

What will it be?

Good wishes and pardon mistakes.
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