The Lagna Chart, also known as Rasi Chart, talks about the relative positions of planet for identifying the nature of the planet (benefic/ malefic etc.) and relationship with other planets. For example, a planet 6th, 8th, or 12th from lagna is not good for langa. On the other hand, Chalit chart tells about planet's house position also called planet siginifcation. For example if a planet is in 8th in lagna kundli but in 7th in chalit kundli, it means that you will get the result of 7th house during the dasa period of that planet. Due to being in 8th in lagna chart, the result may be malefic, so it shows problem in marriage.

Assessing house position from Lagna Kundli is not correct. This is the reason we see cuspal chart is being used in KP System for assessing the signification and synthesizing the result with dasa. In case the planets are shifting in Chalit Chart, in dasa period of a planet, it is recommended to predict the result of house with which the planet is associated in Chalit chart and NOT in Lagna chart.

The Chalit chart requires some mathematical calculation and that is the reason it was not very popular. But now with easy availability of computers, it is important that astrologers start using Chalit chart.

Originally posted by Punit pandey ( In some astrological forum)

Your views are invited one and all . Feel free to write and discuss the finer points.

Regards

J.s.sandhu

Dear all,
please come forward with your views, assumptions & your experiences on the above mentioned topic about the relevance of chalit kundli while making predictions.

Regards

J.s.sandhu

Dear Sandhu,
This is what i know about this topic. First of all as far as i know Nirayana Bhaav Chalit Chart is not part of vedic Culture,i mean BPHS(i may be wrong) that is why it is not being used.Infact KN Rao ji also doesnt use it (though this shudnt be a reason for we also not using it but i dont know many people using it).

The general way of using it is:- We consider placement of planet in a house from D-1 or lagna chart and its palcement in a raashi from Chalit Chart thus we might be having sun in leo in first house in D-1 but it may shift to 12th house in chalit chart without shift of lagan  thus making sun in cancer.
In this case we will predict by using  sun in Cancer in first house rather than leo sun in first house.

I dont think requiring more mathematical calculation can be reason for not considering chalit chart coz if we can make D-1 and other divisional chart alongwith dasa calculation then i dont think spending few more mins(when computers were not there)should have been consideration for the sake of right prediction.

These are my views.

Lets hope to get some good advice from others to.

Raman

Dear raman
Let us assume mars in 9th house in leo in lagan kundli and in 8th with cancer sign  in chalit , in debilation . Now what effect will maha dasha of mars  will have for an individual. Kind of baffling .

Regards

J.s.sandhu




quote="Raman Deep Singh"]Dear Sandhu,
This is what i know about this topic. First of all as far as i know Nirayana Bhaav Chalit Chart is not part of vedic Culture,i mean BPHS(i may be wrong) that is why it is not being used.Infact KN Rao ji also doesnt use it (though this shudnt be a reason for we also not using it but i dont know many people using it).

The general way of using it is:- We consider placement of planet in a house from D-1 or lagna chart and its palcement in a raashi from Chalit Chart thus we might be having sun in leo in first house in D-1 but it may shift to 12th house in chalit chart without shift of lagan  thus making sun in cancer.
In this case we will predict by using  sun in Cancer in first house rather than leo sun in first house.

I dont think requiring more mathematical calculation can be reason for not considering chalit chart coz if we can make D-1 and other divisional chart alongwith dasa calculation then i dont think spending few more mins(when computers were not there)should have been consideration for the sake of right prediction.

These are my views.

Lets hope to get some good advice from others to.

Raman[/quote]

[quote="Raman Deep Singh"]Dear Sandhu,
This is what i know about this topic. First of all as far as i know Nirayana Bhaav Chalit Chart is not part of vedic Culture,i mean BPHS(i may be wrong) that is why it is not being used.Infact KN Rao ji also doesnt use it (though this shudnt be a reason for we also not using it but i dont know many people using it).

The general way of using it is:- We consider placement of planet in a house from D-1 or lagna chart and its palcement in a raashi from Chalit Chart thus we might be having sun in leo in first house in D-1 but it may shift to 12th house in chalit chart without shift of lagan  thus making sun in cancer.
In this case we will predict by using  sun in Cancer in first house rather than leo sun in first house.

I dont think requiring more mathematical calculation can be reason for not considering chalit chart coz if we can make D-1 and other divisional chart alongwith dasa calculation then i dont think spending few more mins(when computers were not there)should have been consideration for the sake of right prediction.

These are my views.

Lets hope to get some good advice from others to.

Raman[/quote]


There is a tropical astrology researcher Robert Hand who some years ago initiated a project named, "Project Hindsight". He attracted many to his fold, mostly tropical astrologer (fact, am not grinding any axes if some would love to pounce to that conclusion!). They did lot of research and published some interesting material about very ancient Babylonian astrological roots that originated in Alexandria (current Iraq, I believe). Serious and scholarly -- Hand has always been and has researched and written seriously. His group presented some thoughts which were alarming to many jyotishis. The findings seemed to point that jyotish as we know it emanated from Alexandria/Babylonia and came to India with Alexander the Great when he invaded India or something like that! Nice to know that in those time, soldiers were also taught astrology! Kind of undermines Hitler who is also stated to have used astrology and astrologers for his war-strategies. But so also have Ronald and Nancy Regans in modern times. And KN Rao has written about the Nehru dynasty and their attitude towards astrology, despite their public  statements to the contrary!

These "ruling" kinds (or wannabees) tend to have some similarities! Napolean and what psychologists have written about him -- something we need not get into or go there!

Truth be seen, there are elements in Indian astrology that may have some foreign origin (we have been invaded and ruled for nearly a thousand years and some of it continues! And that is fine and to be expected.

For example, the Tajik system of annual horoscopy and sahams and itthesala came from Arabic Astrology. No one denies that.

The Sripati system and the equal division houses (used by some jyotishis) are very similar to the documented by Porphyrii and Ptolemy! Did they first were REVEALED <emphasis, folks!> in ancient India or ancient Babylonia or elsewhere is really meaningless, right?

If it works, please share your experience and evidence with us if and when you can. Until then we continue with what works ...

Makes sense?

Love, Light and Levity ...