[quote="skorpion63"][quote="rohiniranjan"][quote="skorpion63"]One question has really been troubling me.

When an [b]astrologer[/b] talks about marriage and spouse ,is he talking about:

[b]Case 1:[/b]

"The person one might have had a social or legal ceremony with for a short time and feels no emotional,mental or physical bonding with?"

OR

[b]Case 2:[/b]

"Is he talking about someone a person had very deep emotional,mental and physical bonding with for a very long time but never had any legal or social ceremony with?"

Who is the spouse according to astrology out of these two cases?

Please note i am looking for an answer PURELY from an astrological point of view and not from a social or legal perspective.

Regards
Rohit

Edit: edited to put case 1 and case 2 headings to the two scenarios,to make it less confusing when replying.[/quote]


Rohit,

We live in a reality which places some duties, expectations, norms, code of conduct, roles and responsibilities.

Regardless of how *emancipated* some of the recent generations may have become and more power to them but there are certain basic realities in day to day living that have not changed for most:
Beggars and pan-handlers and drug-pushers do not have a great family or married life!
Hippies are there no more but the above would hold true for them
The above will hold true for most sane and normal and modern societies and I definitely am not including any of the Shangrila cultist societies and camps of which we all hear from now and then!

In the modern realities, money still is important, although sadly some never look beyond it (maybe in their next birthtime we will get them to pay attention, eh?)

Which means we all have to work and pay attention to what we are doing or our next generation will very happily replace us at work And that would not just apply to the aging baby boomers but the x, y and z as they age!

Through all this, we will find mates, have sex with them and make babies (the next generation! The very ones who will first take over our lives and all available hours and then our jobs when we are too old and homes )

And through all this there will be a person or two or few who would have stood besides us and helped in living the real and boring part of life and living. Not for a night, fortnight, year or five! Those were lovers and soul-acquaintences (your lable goes here). There is a house for them in every heart and horoscope. But for the former, there is a different house and traditionally for those that we traditional old-fashioned jyotishis call spouse there is a house that is the 7th! And there are different aspects of that house that we see in upapada, darakaraka and more!

Then it becomes a matchmaking between the house and the karakas that vye for its throne. This is where your average jyotishi reaches for modern medicine. It is known as aspirin. More puritanical shamans would have reached for willow bark! Same difference, I have been told![/quote]

Rohiniranjan Ji,

You beautifully cleared the confusion i was having on this topic.

I just hope that i may be skilled enough to collect some of the pearls of wisdom you are giving and [b]TRY[/b]  to string them into a beautiful necklace they deserve.

Deep Regards
Rohit

Ps:   "Those were lovers and soul-acquaintences (your lable goes here)"

I did not understand the"( your lable goes here)" part Rohiniranjan Ji.[/quote]

all these labels and catchy names and terms are not absolute but just descriptive, Rohit, was what I was saying, so instead of calling them soul-acquaintainces, soul-partners, soul-mates, you may just call them "two peas in a pod" or "petals connected to the same flower" etc etc.

I think you are trying to see some profound meaning in my words. I am as incapable of profundity as I am of profanity, as you must have observed ...

Rohiniranjan ji,
everything regarding my question on this subject is crystal clear now.

Deep regards
Rohit.

[quote="skorpion63"][quote="rohiniranjan"]
all these labels and catchy names and terms are not absolute but just descriptive, Rohit, was what I was saying, so instead of calling them soul-acquaintainces, soul-partners, soul-mates, you may just call them "two peas in a pod" or "petals connected to the same flower" etc etc.

I think you are trying to see some profound meaning in my words. I am as incapable of profundity as I am of profanity, as you must have observed ...[/quote]

Rohiniranjan ji,
everything regarding my question on this subject is crystal clear now.

Deep regards
Rohit.[/quote]

When I was growing up in an eclectic (recently made free!) Indian culture back when propeller-driven Dakota planes still dutifully carried eager students from India to lands abroad to earn their degrees and more (no jets!) -- one word had so many connotations. Bibi meant wife, and with a 'ji' meant the Master (of household's) wife --I was trying to avoid the term "mistress" as you can tell perhaps :-(  -- and it also meant a younger woman, unmarried, as servants addressed her in certain parts of India and perhaps just a generic term of formally addressing a woman, related or unrelated. Bebe was used for mother in some cultures and Bhabhi for sister in law (elder brother's wife, a friend's wife, an acquanitaince's wife).

One word used in so many different ways and nary a confusion, most times!

And now we must define the same person in so many different ways and with so many different catchy labels?

Have we evolved or just got more ambitious?

Velcro comes to mind! Velcro forms a firm bond but because it has so many hooks! Maybe one hook is not enough so the multiple hooks of velcro are needed in all 12 houses for us to cling to the meaning! Is that why so many vargas??