Dear All,

Over the last several years I have written and discussed a lot about jyotish and philosophy of life and all that kind of stuff and enjoyed it all, even when interactions got a bit hairy and sounded like we were walking on the Razor's edge (and not just Occam's Razor!) and to my chagrin, I may have caused a lot of anguish, anxiety and some grief too to many of the facilitators and those endowed with the responsibility to keep the situation active but not volcanic! Sometimes, it has turned that way, sadly ...

I have seen many facilitators and moderators (a misnomer I think!) that I have seen over my cyber lifetime, and on occasion have been in those shoes myself (can you not tell?) and dear Grandpa Rhutobello belongs amongst the top five percentiles for sure!

Anyways, over time I have written about Rajneesh/Osho the Jain/Zen muni that we have experienced over the last many decades since early 60s I believe! Suresh, who introduced me to jyotish (I have written about) had also almost simultaneously told me about Rajneesh from Jabalpur.

At some point later on in Compuserve I met some who have taken on the Rajneesh Dharma and I read a few of his provocative writings and so on and also wrote about him, astrologically etc over the years.

Today for the first time I heard him (I think?). At some point, I forget when, I acquired a couple of his audio files which dealt with the topic of JYOTISH THE VIGYAAN OF ADWAITA. There are two fairly long files and I listened to those for a few minutes and it is interesting how when we have been reading someone's words for some time in their native language or english, when we suddenly hear them, their audio clips we feel the two to be so disconnected in a sense

I somehow thought Rajneesh was against jyotish, philosophically, like some of the other prevailing gurus etc.! So far he seems to be very taken by his understanding of the impact of jyotish although he mixes at some points of the narration so far, the differences between centuries and millennia! But people like him are kind of beyond time as we ground-folks tend to be anchored to!

BUT the curious thing that struck me this evening was his pronounciations of "Sh". You see, in hindi, there is a big deal about pronouncing S and Sh. Some who grew up in Uttarpradesh often pronounce SH as S something that other hindi speaking individuals find a bit 'strange' to their ears. Individuals born near UP, such as Jabalpore have been known to pronounce SH as the UP version <S>

Rajneesh (if he was who I was listening to this evening) spoke SH as S

We had a hindi teacher Shuklaji who we made fun of behind his back as Suklaji!

I was amazed this evening by how important childhool and so on, memories tend to be and also HOW critical the audio experience is particularly when we have been reading someone (in whatever language, native or acquired!) and suddenly a NEW AWARENESS arises!

It is best to have  a realistic 3D experience, in other words as opposed to bits and pieces. No big damage, mind you, but just a greater appreciation of how much role MAYA plays in our lives

[quote="rohiniranjan"]Dear All,

Over the last several years I have written and discussed a lot about jyotish and philosophy of life and all that kind of stuff and enjoyed it all, even when interactions got a bit hairy and sounded like we were walking on the Razor's edge (and not just Occam's Razor!) and to my chagrin, I may have caused a lot of anguish, anxiety and some grief too to many of the facilitators and those endowed with the responsibility to keep the situation active but not volcanic! Sometimes, it has turned that way, sadly ...

I have seen many facilitators and moderators (a misnomer I think!) that I have seen over my cyber lifetime, and on occasion have been in those shoes myself (can you not tell?) and dear Grandpa Rhutobello belongs amongst the top five percentiles for sure!

Anyways, over time I have written about Rajneesh/Osho the Jain/Zen muni that we have experienced over the last many decades since early 60s I believe! Suresh, who introduced me to jyotish (I have written about) had also almost simultaneously told me about Rajneesh from Jabalpur.

At some point later on in Compuserve I met some who have taken on the Rajneesh Dharma and I read a few of his provocative writings and so on and also wrote about him, astrologically etc over the years.

Today for the first time I heard him (I think?). At some point, I forget when, I acquired a couple of his audio files which dealt with the topic of JYOTISH THE VIGYAAN OF ADWAITA. There are two fairly long files and I listened to those for a few minutes and it is interesting how when we have been reading someone's words for some time in their native language or english, when we suddenly hear them, their audio clips we feel the two to be so disconnected in a sense

I somehow thought Rajneesh was against jyotish, philosophically, like some of the other prevailing gurus etc.! So far he seems to be very taken by his understanding of the impact of jyotish although he mixes at some points of the narration so far, the differences between centuries and millennia! But people like him are kind of beyond time as we ground-folks tend to be anchored to!

BUT the curious thing that struck me this evening was his pronounciations of "Sh". You see, in hindi, there is a big deal about pronouncing S and Sh. Some who grew up in Uttarpradesh often pronounce SH as S something that other hindi speaking individuals find a bit 'strange' to their ears. Individuals born near UP, such as Jabalpore have been known to pronounce SH as the UP version <S>

Rajneesh (if he was who I was listening to this evening) spoke SH as S

We had a hindi teacher Shuklaji who we made fun of behind his back as Suklaji!

I was amazed this evening by how important childhool and so on, memories tend to be and also HOW critical the audio experience is particularly when we have been reading someone (in whatever language, native or acquired!) and suddenly a NEW AWARENESS arises!

It is best to have  a realistic 3D experience, in other words as opposed to bits and pieces. No big damage, mind you, but just a greater appreciation of how much role MAYA plays in our lives [/quote]


A very similar realization I experienced last year when in Sedona I acquired a few casettes of audio recordings of Yogananda!

I think I have heard MMY too at some point and again it was not impressive unless I am mixing up tracks!

What can we learn from that?