hai rajitha i appreciate ur doubts  about pitru dosh and kethu wait for hours time,i will give u clear vision abou this,thro which many may be benifited.

prasanna

In abhijits chart one thing i couldnot understand is in lagna chart mercury is in 4th house and in bhav chalit kundali it is in 5th house with venus. so are we suppose to use bhav chalit kundali for prediction. bhav chalit kundali means in that case suppose range of 1st bhav is from 20 degree in leo to 10degree in kanya and so on. If suppose in lagna kundali of kanya my sun is in leo it will be in 12th house in lagna kundali, but in bhav chalit kundali it will be in 1st bhav as range of 1st bhav is from 20 degrees of leo to 10 degrees of kanya. like that is the case of abhijit. please describe that also.

hai chetan, before answering all ur questions let me tell onething first, u have added my name with that of sri rohiniranjan and sri goverdhavt, as learned scholors, be frank i could say , in dhono maharathiyo ke saath mere nam dekker mughe kushi na mili, tum mujhe sharmindha kar raho ho. i am not that scholor as they both, my knowldege in this field   is very
limited, more over u r talking about chalith kundali and all, i am not having any software at home, i just use MBFREE JANAMKUNDALI SOFTWARE for preparing Chatrs, it says only registered members can save charts and download  and move to the next portion, so i could not make those charts in my south indian style,
 shall i ask for registered version of this software  now,? as i have wriiten 32 posts,am i elegible to get it with unlock code,  or not  ?that is  not known  to me,that i have to ask moderator swethaji or rishiji, then only i can be able to answer u in depth. , i request them to take note of this.

Based on my limited know how ,let me explain what i know tabout

the placement of shani in ucha stan tula which is second bhava to kanya lagna,
u asked being here in ucha place how sani can give adverse effect on financial matter of  abijit,  your doubt is correct, a learner should ask and get that doubt cleared so that  he can learn more
let me teach as a elementary school  teacher here regarding this point

In general .do u know the Bhavadhipathyam and their adhipathis?


the first house - Lagna  which is known as kendra-   the house or the rasi where lagna  is  written, L a or Asc  is called as lagna,  and the house  to   whom it  belongs is known as lagnadhipathi or kendradhipathi=  here it is Budha as u know Kanya rasi is the house of budha  so he is called lagna dhipathi  here ,and basing  on the lagna one can decide the other bhavas and the qualities of other bhavadhi pathis are determined. It speks of personality , charecters , apperances , more than  that this is called jeevan stan and the lord or  nayak is known by the name lagnadhipathi or  jeevanadhipathi

secon d  house is called  dhana kutumbha vakku , nethra stan , and lord here is
known as dhanasthanadhipathi  neethra stanadhipathi, here it is sukra or venus , so it is the house o sukra - note in this chart sani is here

third is known as sodhrastan and dhairaya sthan -means ur details regarding ur sisers brothers and ur boldness is known fron this Bhav
so this is called sahodhrstan dhairyastan adthipathi -virichika it is the place of mars or guja-

fourth stan is suka stan and mathru stan - this is owned by jupiter or bruhaspathi -  sukhadhipathi mathrustanadhipathi here is jupitor

fifth house is known as puthra stan and ,panchamstan poorva punya stan this is the house of - shani as this is makara here, he is puthrastanadhipathi as well as panchamadhipathy  poorvapunasthanadhipathi .



sixth place is known as runa roha shethru stan -as this kumbh owner is shani again

seventh place is called kalathra stan which decides spouse-    this means  jupitor is kalathra stanadhipathi  here

eigth house is known as ashtama stan or aaur sthan so the lord  of mesha gets the name here as ashtamastanadhi pathi

ninth house Bhagya stan dharmasthan which deals with ur luck father
here dharmathipathi is -sukra as risha is the house of venus

tenth house is known as karma stan ,geevan stan,rajya stan=this being mithuna the lord here is mercury or budh , so he becomes karma stanadhipathi basing on his placement  we see job ,placement etc

eleventh house= lahbha stan yoha stan =according to which we see our yohas getting gain  etc   ie profits  aabharan clothes etc- karkataka =lord is chandra or moon

twelth house deals with our propereties sayan stan,viraya stan- means our capacity of owning properties our comforts, viraya  means our expense=lord here is known as viryadhipathi execessive spender bringin g losses and expenses- here this is leo or simha -lord here is surya so he is virayadhipathi

except sun and moon all other five planets are the owners of two houses, they attain the name  of two bhavas, places and shani being the owner here for makara and kumbha he is getting two adhipathayas as , he is called here bhagyadhipathi and runa roha sathru stanadhipathi

, and i think u r clear about the uchha stan and neech stan as u wrote in thula shani is ucha stan , so i need not repeat wher e one g ets uchha -powerful and where one gets neetch or looses power ,.is that clear?

Do u know the 12 bhavas  and it s classification, let me tell u

 1, 4, 7, 10 th places are regarded  as kendra stan

 1, 5, 9, thrikonas

2,5, 8,11   panabhara

3,6,9,12    apokila

3,6,10,11     upa jeya

6,8,12, hidden places guptha stan

In these 6, 8, 12 are regarded as bad placements and these stans brings bad elements , and thes places are not normally considered good and the stanadipathis are regarded as papi - malignants  not regarded as benefactors

I  think now u can know why shani will bring losses being uchha in tula , it is the writen  rule here , the adhipathis like, rana roha stathru stanadhipathi, ashtamadhipathi and viraya stanadhi pathis will  bring only losses, and they should not get uchha bal, they should be hidden or power less, then only one gets benefits as here shani is in dhana s stan in second  bhav and he is the malignant paapi  and he should be hiddd,en, but here he has attained more power , which is the root cause for all bad things, and i said beacuse of this he could not own his poorvaj properties , and he should get prosperity only thro his own efforts and hard work ,
and budh the kalathra stanadhi pathi here is in panchamastan , so  he can get properties with the help of his wife, she will bring him prosperity and happiness and she will be supportive throughout  his whole life , for his  all upliftments in future,

please buy the basic book of jyothis first  name kuttabha jyothish , we buy kutumbha jodhiam in tamil  , one of my friends  presented me this book
and told me to be thurough with the basic elements , and i have learnt myself , reading more books, i think you are now very clear about shani's placements and his effects.

Let me get your opinion on this, i request Goverdhanji and ranjanji to give their opinion of my  teachings and say whether i am going in the correct path of  learning astrology, let me suggest more books through which i can go for further studies, my knowledge now is of high school level only

I request other mebers also to give their valuable opinion regarding my teaching
thank u all

prasanna

prasanna ji now iam very much clear about why shani is not that much benific. so whether same rule is applied in case of mars which is in 5th house?? and also as shani is holding lordship of one good and one bad house so whether results would be mixed? ?