A friend of mine gave the following explanation

"Exaltation happens when a planet is in Friend , Neutral or  own house except for Sukra in Kanya where it is debilitated in friends house. Debilitation of planet happens in enemies house, except for Guru in Makara and Budha in Meena, the lord of those houses being nuetral to the respective planets"

But I said  the argument holds good but one can see more of exception in the argument than the basic reason. Extending the argument further, when I asked him to give valid explanation for the excetption,  why Sukra is debilitation in Kanya, he had point to make that Kanya is 12th house to the Moolatrikona house of Venus, hence it is debilitated, but he failed to give any reason why Guru and Budha is debilitated in Makara and Meena.

Finally, I told him that it deviated from my main query, why no planets is either exalted or debilitated in few houses, to which he immediately came up with a spot answer saying that, we have only 9 planets and 12 house and hence a planet can be exalted or debilitated only once and hence the rest are left.

Though the argument was logical, but it did not convince me.

Dear Sri RR Ji,

Thank you for clearly confusing  

By the way MY Aquarius Jup is Straightforward!!! along with Ve!!!

Let me ponder

[quote="govardhanvt"]Dear Rohiniji

My query here is only on pure Exaltation and debilitation of planets and not the implied exaltation or debilitation due to retrograde motion or otherwise.

Here is one view, but I would like to know other valid reasons for the same

Exaltations and Debilitation
of Planets
Swami Ambikajagadananda

Astrologically planets are ascribed exaltation and debilitation points in the zodiac. As a rule the Rasi (sign) in which the exaltation and debilitation point is located is taken as a whole as exalted or debilitated sign. The point of debilitation from the point of exaltation is 180 degrees. The 7th sign from the sign of exaltation is the debilitation sign.

Exaltation Debilitation

Sun Aries 100 Libra 100

Moon Taurus 30 Scorpio 30

Mars Capricorn 280 Cancer 280

Mercury Virgo 150 Pisces 150

Jupiter Cancer 50 Capricorn 50

Venus Pisces 270 Virgo 270

Saturn Libra 200 Aries 200

The why, how and what of exaltation and debilitation of planets are not explained in any authoritative work of astrology.

The argument put forth by some is that the planet nearer to earth is potentially strong and hence is exalted. A study of the following dismisses that argument.

The distance and exaltation or debilitation of planets is not in any way connected. Then what is debilitation and exaltation of planets ?

Exaltation means being in high position, exhileration and strength. Debility means weakness, and humility .

The zodiac is the planetary cabinet. The first house or sign should be occupied by protocol by the King as the Ist citizen. Sun is the king of planetary cabinet. Hence he should be exalted on his thrown in the Ist sign Aries. A king enjoys power and position only when attended by the commander in chief Mars and the servant Saturn. Aries is the sign owned by Mars, the commander in chief of the planetary cabinet and Saturn the servant is debilitated (humbled) in Aries due to the authority of the King and the commander in chief. The King is attended on either side (Pisces and Taurus by Venus the courtesan and the Queen Moon).

The place next to the King shall go only to the Queen. Hence Moon is exalted in Taurus. Sun owns Leo and Moon owns Cancer and get exalted in Aries and Taurus respectively. Next to Queen no one can sit. Hence Gemini has neither exaltation or debilitation of any planet in it. Cancer is owned by the Queen (Queen's place) Moon. Jupiter is the preceptor and further has a respectable place in the Queen's palace when he visits Cancer. Hence Jupiter is exalted in Cancer. Mythologically Moon (as male disciple of Jupiter) has an episode with Tara, the wife of Jupiter, which culminated in the birth of a child Budha. Mars the commander in chief visits the Queen's palace to carry out the commands or run errands of the Queen. Hence he is debilitated in Cancer. In the King's palace of Leo no planet can be exalted. Hence free from exaltation or debilitation. Virgo is owned by Mercury. Mercury is the finance minister in the planetary cabinet hence exalted in Virgo. Venus the courtesan is debilitated in the house of the finance minister, personally visiting for financial aid. Libra is owned by courtesan (damsel). When the king visits the court damsel, naturally he is accompanied by the servant Saturn. In the house of a damsel the king looses his authority. Hence is debilitated in Libra. The servant Saturn is the master of the situation (arranging meeting of Damsel Venus and King Sun) and is exalted. Scorpio is owned by Mars. When Moon the Queen visits the quarters of subordinate commander in chief, she is humbled. Hence is debilitated in Scorpio. In the mansion of the Guru Jupiter no planet is exalted or debilitated. Capricorn is the quarters of the servant and soldier Saturn. Mars visits the barracks of soldier. He the commander in chief visits with authority. Hence is exalted. Jupiter the preceptor and prime minister by visiting the quarters of a servant looses his dignity and status.

Hence Jupiter is debilitated in the house of Saturn - Capricorn Aquarius also is owned by Saturn. There is no debility or exaltation of planets in it. Pisces is owned by Jupiter. Venus, the damsel, being in the house of respected Jupiter in the proximity of the king In Pisces naturally has power hence is exalted. Finance Minister, and in the proximity of the king is subdued of his authority and hence is debilitated in Pisces.

This is one line of explanation of exaltation and debilitation of planets on the basis of planet politics.

 



Regards
V.T.GOVARDHAN[/quote]

Haha! Loved the imaginative allegory, Govardhanji
Interesting imagery of the king between his Queen and the courtesan in pisces the house of sleeping pleasures in the Kalapurusha's chart! Which going by what most of the kings and Emperors are known to engage in is perhaps the reality!

Now how does this symbolism play out in the regular charts and also in terms of the mahapurusha yogas?

More midnight oil to burn I suppose

RR Ji,

I am back!

You wrote:

//But by that token, your aquarius jupiter when retrograde would be considered debilitated //

My questions:

Why Ju has his own Nakshatra in Aq?

What if Ju is placed in Aq and in his own Nakshatra PB? in diff padas?
how do we consider Ju in this position in Direct mode and Retro Mode?

Regards

ChanDubai

My responses at the bottom of this thread as I do not want to turn this into a retrograde (chronologically speaking!) thread

RR

[quote="ChanDubai"]RR Ji,

I am back!

You wrote:

//But by that token, your aquarius jupiter when retrograde would be considered debilitated //

My questions:

Why Ju has his own Nakshatra in Aq?

What if Ju is placed in Aq and in his own Nakshatra PB? in diff padas?
how do we consider Ju in this position in Direct mode and Retro Mode?

Regards

ChanDubai


[quote="rohiniranjan"]Hey Chandubai,

Stop confusing me

This one belongs right up there with the one from bhrigu nandi nadi where a retrograde planet was said to be as if in 12th place therefrom. In other words, each time jupiter retrogresses in leo, it would be taken as Exalted!

But by that token, your aquarius jupiter when retrograde would be considered debilitated

RR

[quote="ChanDubai"]Govardhan Ji,

There's lot of debate/fight   among astro scholars....Jupiter is Exalted in or atleast akin to exaltion in Aquarius...I am not sure....

I am not a Scholar just an Astro student!

Regards

ChanDubai



[quote="govardhanvt"]Why no planets are not exalted or debilitated in LEO, Gemini and Aquarius?[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]

ChanDubai,

You are of course free to utilize astroindicators in whichever way it pleases you but I would not equate the rasi lordship in the same way as nakshatra rulership of planets. Nakshatras are ruled by deities and planets are more like markers of the zone or depict the character of the nakshatra. So I would be hesitant in so fluidly joining the uchchabala (rashi) with nakshatra zones. After all, although associated/loosely termed ruled by jupiter, Vishakha, Punarvasu and Poorvabhadrapada are completely different 'beasts', won't you say?