Rohiniranjanji,
When you read about the predictions made by Brighu muni and Agasthya muni and how accurate they are then you start believing that destiny has to be predestined otherwise how could they have known so long back about our future.
Then astrology is a predictive science and if remedies can change destiny then how can one predict anything as everything can be changed by remedies or free will. This is my belief and it maybe that I am wrong.

Rishiji,
When I see so much misery in the world I start having doubts about the existence of God. Some will argue that when a person is suffering miseries he is paying for the bad karmas done in his past life but if that is so what role is God playing other than delivering each and every person the results of his karmas? I am not sure about the existence of God but if he does exist it doesn't make sense his playing such a small role, the biggest role being played by destiny here. I also believe that he can't be so unsympathetic towards his children that he would see people suffer and still not help them in their misery, people pray to him when they are in misery and I have seen many instances where sincere prayers has not given any good results, maybe because the planetary positions were not indicating so, so why pray to him and why believe in him? Well, this is what I believe and I may be absolutely wrong.

[quote="basab"]Rohiniranjanji,
When you read about the predictions made by Brighu muni and Agasthya muni and how accurate they are then you start believing that destiny has to be predestined otherwise how could they have known so long back about our future.
Then astrology is a predictive science and if remedies can change destiny then how can one predict anything as everything can be changed by remedies or free will. This is my belief and it maybe that I am wrong.[/quote]

This is a common mistake/misuderstanding that many in the field have. What I said was that life is an interplay of bhagya and purushartha. We assume that those SAGES passively read some bhagya that was rigid. Like I said (and it is my thinking and not saying that this is the ultimate truth) the complex interplay of fate and free will manifests to different levels in different individuals. Many of the Super Sages (a few exist even amongst us) had the ability to introduce bhagya in the common man's otherwise bleak life through their SUPER free-will. Let us not pretend that what we can do or the clarity with which we can study other people's lives is anywhere near or at the same level or via the same mechanism which Bhrigu muni and Agasthya Rishi were capable of. I am perfectly comfortable in thinking that they were not reading but 'making' destinies! And who really knows what predictions they gave since I do not believe they left behind any diaries

If destiny were the only game in town, then astrology texts from ancient times, right from book-101 to whatever would not have given muhurtas and would not have dealt with remedial astrology. These two to me are evidence that even ancients believed that there is a role for free-will in our lives.

I hope it makes sense to you, Basab!

Rohiniranjanji,
I agree with your point of view.

[quote="basab"]Rohiniranjanji,
I agree with your point of view.[/quote]


Basab,

Since you did not quote my message which you were agreeing to, so kindly, this would be akin to you signing a blank cheque!

Relax! I have a droll sense of humour as you must have experienced already!