Hello Rishi,
I suppose this was the message you wished me to comment upon? My comments are embedded
RR
[quote="RishiRahul"]Hi Rishiji !!
this simple but thoughtful explanation does make me ponder more over the main question !!! Rishiji the mantras do assist or to say work better whn a person belives in them, but that the stone may still work its miracles with or without belief. but then arnt we to put in" belief " at center rather than what simply works .. already the world suffers from "CHALTA Hai" attitude .. its already intolerant to hard work rather to "shortcuts" ... and i guess Astrology is more to do with faith rather than being a mere tool to evade some obstacle in life. I hope i am right.
apart frm this .. i would like to know (cos i have no exp ) ppl here in Europe wear stones for jewelery, just for sake of fashion or some liking for the stone. Can such a stone cause any harm / good to native ...
warmly
Asro[/quote]
Hello,
'BELIEF' affects in all remedies.
RR: TRUE. THE TRUE HEALER IS WITHIN AND CAN BE ACTIVATED THROUGH A NUMBER OF OBSERVATIONS WHICH GENERALLY TEND TO BE UNDERREPORTED PUBLICLY FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS INCLUDING SUPERSTITIOUS ONES!
Belief in stones/mantras/other remedies gives confidence.
Day 1= We wake up feeling underconfident
Day2= We wake up feeling confident.
Out of these 2 days we are seen/known to perform better in day 2 where better productivity, decisions and progress is seen.
Reagarding your question regarding wearing stones for ornamental/astroloical reasons, stones for the latter is supposed to touch our skin and better if exposed to the Sun also.
Everystone has a good effect and a bad one. We have to choose the one with least bad effects. Our living environment, day to day environment is always affecting us in plusses and minuses. Similarly the radiation from stones do to, the colors of clothes we wear do to, the direction our house/home is in does to et.et.
Stones is another environmental factor among so many. People wearing stones for ornamental reasons certainly get some positive and negative vibrations of the stones.
See, benefics and malefics have natural and functional qualities. Stones too(as I feel, and am unsure whether this idea is given in the books) can be said to have natural and functional qualities.
ex: Natural quality of Red coral=good for piles and certain health matters
Functional quality=Whether it suits the native or not depending on astro analysis.
RR: THIS HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE TOO THAT STONES HAVE INDIVIDUAL CHARACTERISTICS AND GUNAS AND ALSO THE METHODS UTILIZED TO 'ACTIVATE' THOSE BEFORE WEARING. THIS MUST BE LEARNED CAREFULLY FROM ONE'S TEACHER AS IT IS NOT JUST A CEREBRAL (LEARNED) PROCESS BUT HAS EXPERIENTIAL ELEMENTS. LET US LEAVE IT AT THAT. IN TERMS OF GUNAS, PSYCHICS HAVE AN EDGE OVER ASTROLOGERS SINCE THEY CAN PICK MORE DIRECTLY THE INTRINSIC QUALITIES OF THE STONE. DEPENDING ON THE NATURE OF PURPOSE (GUNA) THE STONE MUST BE MATCHING IN ORDER TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PURPOSE. WHEN STONE COMBINATIONS ARE PRESCRIBED (THIS IS MORE COMPLICATED BUT OFTEN GIVES BETTER RESULTS THAN JUST ONE STONE BASED ON SOMETHING AFTER SUPERFICIAL ANALYSIS OF A CHART AND OFTEN THE REASON WHY PEOPLE GET FRUSTRATED OR DISSATISFIED BY FOLLOWING GEM PRESCRIPTIONS AS WE READ FROM TIME TO TIME). THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I DO NOT LIKE QUICKIE PRESCRIPTIONS ASKED BY INDIVIDUALS OR EVEN GIVEN AT TIMES. HOWEVER, PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE THAT AND BEAT UP ON THE MESSENGER AS WE SEE FROM TIME TO TIME
HARISH JOHARI'S BOOK ON GEMSTONES IS A VERY GOOD ONE AND GOES BEYOND JUST GEMSTONES, FOR THOSE INTERESTED.
GEMS AND MANTRAS GO HAND IN HAND AND MANTRAS CAN/MUST BE USED TO CLEANSE AND ACTIVATE GEMS BEFORE WEARING. OFTEN THIS CRUCIAL STEP IS OVERLOOKED OR CARRIED OUT INADEQUATELY.
OFTEN TERMS SUCH AS ENERGY AND RADIATIONS AND RAYS ARE UTILIZED TO EXPLAIN THE EFFECTS PRODUCED BY THE GEMSTONES. AS LONG AS IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS IS AN APPROXIMATION AND PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO EXPLAIN IN A NEWTONIAN/CARTESIAN MANNER, THIS MAY NOT BE EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON. THERE ARE EXPERIMENTATIONS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE USING SIBERIAN CRYSTALS AND MAGNETIC DEVICES THAT INTENSITY THE MEDITATIVE EXPERIENCES AND SEEM TO INDICATE THAT SOME OF THESE 'PHYSICAL' PHENOMENA AND FORCES CAN CROSS THE BOUNDARIES BETWEEN THE PHYSICAL AND INTO THE METAPHYSICAL AND SPIRITUAL DIMENSIONS. THOSE ARE RELATED TO ASTROLOGICAL PHENOMENA. WE OFTEN TEND TO SEE THE CHART AND PLANETS AND TEND TO FALL IN THE MINDSET THAT THESE SOMEHOW REPRESENT THE DEEPER GOINGS ON. I SEE THESE AS THE TIPS OF ICEBERGS VIEWED FROM A HELICOPTER, FOR INSTANCE. THE ICEBERGS CAN BE ACCURATELY LOCATED BY THEIR TIPS (PLANETS) BUT DEEP UNDER WHERE THE ASTROLOGICAL PLANETS ARE INTERACTING AND WHICH LEADS TO THE ASTROLOGICAL EXPERIENTIAL PHENOMENON COULD BE A LOT MORE COMPLEX BUT INTERACTIVE. HENCE IT PAYS TO LOOK AT A MORE MULTIFACTORIAL PICTURE INVOLVING OTHER VARGAS, INCLUDING ASTAKAVARGA, CHAKRAS, JAIMINI FACTORS, BALAS, ETC. ONE MUST OBVIOUSLY STOP AT THE POINT WHERE THEY ARE BEGINNING TO GET CONFUSED RATHER THAN MINDLESSLY ADDING FACTORS AFTER FACTORS AND THE BEAUTY OF ASTROLOGY IS THAT EVEN WITHOUT A LOT OF FACTORS PEOPLE CAN OFTEN GIVE MEANINGFUL ADVICE SUCCESSFULLY. BUT NONE OF THOSE ARE NON-ESSENTIAL AND THE GROWING RESISTANCE IN SOME SCHOOLS AND CIRCLES OF AVOIDING THE MIXING OF PARASHARI AND JAIMINI CONSIDERATIONS IN A READING OR EVEN RESEARCH IS NOT VERY APPROPRIATE. AFTERALL, THESE JUST DESCRIBE OR CODIFY OUR WAY OF LOOKING AT THE VERY SAME RASHIS AND PLANETS!
Do not just read what I said. Imagine and ponder;Maybe I could not explain well. (Mercury and moon in conjunction with aspect from Saturn and Jupiter).
Hope I have been clear
RishiRahul[/quote]
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