Dear friends

In The horoscope provided by AMANUSH-FORCE,  Ketu is exalted , along with Jupiter , in Scorpio, which according to some dictum is the own house of Ketu , aspected by Mars . Scropio being the negative house for Mars.  I feel there is Uchha Banga for Ketu by the presence of Mars in LEO . Mars is also Yogakaraka for LEO Ascendant.  Ketu takes over the role of Mars and hence it would be more beneficial for the native. Jupiter being the 5th lord, and 8th lord , is more postive to the native as any planet which has dual lordship gives effect of the first house to which it belongs. Hence because of Purvapunya, the native should not have much problem in life and I am of the opinion, Guru Chandala yoga  would not give any negative results to the native and I am of the view the native should have got some property through inheritance. I hasten to add, the native would have some concern  as regards to  the  his mother's health.

The chart provided by AMANUSH FORCE on
page 1 is a good example of Kal Sarpa Yog
Isn't it ?
Pls. analyse it from this view point.

Speaking of *beginnings*, the above seems to be my first message on this Mystic Forum (CONSISTENT with everywhere else that I have shared...!)

The above one is from:
Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:17 pm

BUT ... *purrhaps*, all this time, I had been just speaking to *myself*

BUT HEY, I have been CONSISTENT, MA!!  

Love, Light, Levity!

Hi,
This is one of the yogas sold by astrologers very well in the market and get heavily paid too,
Esp coz of it intimidating Name GURU CHANDAAL YOGA .

But some how this is one of the yogas is misinterpreted alot....

In one of the interviews KN Rao ji did mention about this yoga and explained about it very well.
That native having this yoga will do fraud/ditch his Guru.. Now this Guru can be his own parents
or his teacher or anyone who z part of his/her life in guarding and guiding him/her.

And ditch means, disrespecting this guru in the form which cannot b ever expected by the guru by making him
feel small or being DITCHED or let down mainly in a field of expectations , totally coz of a sense of
PRIDE/Ego or OVER confidence in native...
AND.. most important part of this yoga is that native WILL have to pay for his/her misbehavior with guru..sooner or later.

So the only Solution for this yoga is to go away from ur guru if at any point native feels that he has out grown or over smarted his guru.
and now he/she can teach ur own guru in the field you have been taught, be it way of living life or any particular subject.

I have seen this to be quite a true that natives with this yoga does have this tendency to think that they have out-smarted their
guru.

I feel that Rahu with Guru does elevate the feeling of arrogance /ego in native and also over shadow native's maturity.


Regards,
Raman Deep Singh

I disagree with interpretation of K.N.Rao. I know personally some members ( 4 actually)  of families in my very close relatives who has Guru Chandala yoga , I know the family dynamics well enough and none of the cases it is even remotely true.
At one side , they say Rahu takes the behaviour or nature of planet it is housing  with or the lord of house .Then how come now jupiter and rahu combo is derogatory for guru or elders. Why is not Rahu now behaving like Jupiter and Juipter.
This placement of planets could be in any house of horoscope. We are never generic about any combination and dont have blanket judgement about any planetary combination  then why about this one.
Mangala and chandra gets considered as Lakshami yoga but not everywhere in every house.

Guru and Rahu can equally give based on its placement atypicality rather than Arrogance. In todays' modern world, not 'All' the teachers of schools would qualify to be called as Gurus as they are all monetary employees and do as much they are supposed to do through their jobs and saffron rob wearing people like Nityanada are good examples of why they should not be believed in.
Not all of us have Guru Rahu combination, but now a days, who believes in these guys.

Second and most important perspective is human birth is just a vehicle of soul. You get to see souls who are born here as much as 300 times already or as less as 5 times already. They differ in their experience. Rahu - Guru combination might make a beginner soul sway away from the righteousness of Jupiter towards expression of Rahu but a mature soul will only disregard all the conventional norms of society which are not healthy. So that can't be taken as arrogance /ego. People believe in dowry and abuse in relationships in our Indian society. Someone like guru- rahu combo will actually not participate and will stand against all nonsense conventions in it, if favoured by placement and maturity of soul. That is a very very favorable act.
For them 'conventionalism' signified by Jupiter is followed only if it is really 'right' and not because it is popular, accepted way of current society otherwise atypical, not-so-popular and yet 'unconventional' norm will be their choice of action as signified by Rahu. Following a guru blindly is not always absence of ego and respect could never be equivalent of self-suppression. If Guru wants to be respected by keeping you under your thumb that is Gurus' arrogance and not shishyas'. If Shishya makes himself come out of it , is not arrogance, because you have to fullfil the objective of your life assigned to you one way or the other way. If it gets done by stepping out of Gurus' shadow, you will have to.
Unfortunately blanket interpretation of combination doesnt help always , does some time.
(If some one is now thinking about my horoscope now, my Jupiter is neither debilitated ,nor in conjuction with rahu/ketu/shani or not even aspected by so called bad guys of astrology.)