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Re: Birth Time
Rajesh Kakkanatt


Age: 39
Zodiac:
Virgo



Joined: 28 Oct 2007
Posts: 29

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Dear Rohini Rajan,

I am relay relay serious about astrology and I am not just mocking or playing. Of course I have some serious doubts regarding Astrology. As you can see I just asked questions which are relay basic but very important for predictions, like Ayanmsa, combination of planets for travel, parivarthana yoga etc.. etc..

I do not want any personal predictions. I just want to know the reason. Still I did not get any answer for the above. instead I am getting something else   .

"One wonders really as to WHY then are you asking for help from a forum-full of strangers? Why do you not know it all already?"

I did not understand the above statement properly :( . That is the exact reason I uploaded my Horoscope.  Astrological charts are thumb prints of a person, from my horoscope reading itself one can see that I am not just taken Astrology as simple, I am really serious about it.  

One more thing I want to say is that I have only very very little knowledge about Astrology, but I am really really interested in learning it. In modern era one of the place to get knowledge is Internet and the place to discuss out doubt is forum like this.

N.B: I am not playing or mocking (you mis understood me), I just want to clear my doubts that is all. If I get a genuine answer for at least one question its precious for me.

Regards

Rajesh Kakkanatt


rohiniranjan wrote:
Rajesh,

Vedas are not carbon-dated if you must know (and even carbon dating can be off by thousands of years!). So please get serious!!

I can see that YOU have some serious doubts about many things!

You ignored my comment about sundials and provided some dates about some western inventions! We all have access to wikipedia...

But you completely forgot about the observatories and sundials builit by Indian Astronomer Kings in Ujjain and Rajasthan and other places in India!

I am sure they were not wearing watches and clocks that you mockingly reminded me of

The BOTTOMLINE SIR is that with all your levity and mocking attitude, it is YOU who is still looking for answers about astrology and your personal life etc and not I!

All I was asking in response to your public request was how do you know for sure that your birthtime was accurate and you have not really given us a good answer, other than "trust me -- my father knows!"

One wonders really as to WHY then are you asking for help from a forum-full of strangers? Why do you not know it all already?

OR DO YOU and are just playing with us? I will leave it at that...!

Rohiniranjan


Rajesh Kakkanatt wrote:
Dear RR,

Astrology was mentioned in Vedas which is 5000 years old (may be 5002 or 4098 ) and the wrist watch was invented in 1504, the first portable (but not very accurate) timepiece.

In 1656, the pendulum was invented by Christian Huygens, making clocks more accurate (Still not that accurate).



After all this discussion I did not get my answer, what are the combinations  for a Travel.   . I do not want any predictions, I just posted my Horoscope for verification (if required).  The heading of this forum itself is (How to intrepret in Vimsottari Dasa).

My real question as you can see was:

"In one of the forum its stated that Moon and Rahu is the Karakas for foreign travel.

I have some doubts. How can we know the exact time of travel by checking the Vimsottari Dasa. "


Regards

Rajesh Kakkanatt


rohiniranjan wrote:
Rajesh Kakkanatt wrote:
Dear RR,
... Watch was only invented 100 years back but our Astrology was 5000 years old. Their was no watch that time, but they predicted (hope so) our horoscope, how?...


Dear Rajesh,

I will tell you 'how' after you provide us with evidence regarding your assumptions about Astrology being 5000 years old (not 5002? Are you sure?) or even the watch being only a 100 years old! Ever hear of sundials?

It is assumptions like these casually tossed around that make people wonder about the substance behind astrology! And it is not at all astrology's fault!

RR
Re: Birth Time
Rohiniranjan


Age: 59
Zodiac:
Sagittarius



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Posts: 4316

Reply with quote
Wow!

The typos are *relay* serious (hic!) ...
or should I say <SIGH!>?

May God bless you! May Reiki heal you!!

RR


[quote="Rajesh Kakkanatt"]Dear Rohini Rajan,

I am relay relay serious about astrology and I am not just mocking or playing. Of course I have some serious doubts regarding Astrology. As you can see I just asked questions which are relay basic but very important for predictions, like Ayanmsa, combination of planets for travel, parivarthana yoga etc.. etc..

I do not want any personal predictions. I just want to know the reason. Still I did not get any answer for the above. instead I am getting something else  :) .

"One wonders really as to WHY then are you asking for help from a forum-full of strangers? Why do you not know it all already?"

I did not understand the above statement properly :( . That is the exact reason I uploaded my Horoscope.  Astrological charts are thumb prints of a person, from my horoscope reading itself one can see that I am not just taken Astrology as simple, I am really serious about it.  

One more thing I want to say is that I have only very very little knowledge about Astrology, but I am really really interested in learning it. In modern era one of the place to get knowledge is Internet and the place to discuss out doubt is forum like this.

N.B: I am not playing or mocking (you mis understood me), I just want to clear my doubts that is all. If I get a genuine answer for at least one question its precious for me.

Regards

Rajesh Kakkanatt


[quote="rohiniranjan"]Rajesh,

Vedas are not carbon-dated if you must know (and even carbon dating can be off by thousands of years!). So please get serious!!

I can see that YOU have some serious doubts about many things!

You ignored my comment about sundials and provided some dates about some western inventions! We all have access to wikipedia...

But you completely forgot about the observatories and sundials builit by Indian Astronomer Kings in Ujjain and Rajasthan and other places in India!

I am sure they were not wearing watches and clocks that you mockingly reminded me of ;-)

The BOTTOMLINE SIR is that with all your levity and mocking attitude, it is YOU who is still looking for answers about astrology and your personal life etc and not I!

All I was asking in response to your public request was how do you know for sure that your birthtime was accurate and you have not really given us a good answer, other than "trust me -- my father knows!"

One wonders really as to WHY then are you asking for help from a forum-full of strangers? Why do you not know it all already?

OR DO YOU and are just playing with us? I will leave it at that...!

Rohiniranjan


[quote="Rajesh Kakkanatt"]Dear RR,

Astrology was mentioned in Vedas which is 5000 years old (may be 5002 or 4098 :) ) and the wrist watch was invented in 1504, the first portable ([b]but not very accurate[/b]) timepiece.

In 1656, the pendulum was invented by Christian Huygens, making clocks more accurate (Still not that [b]accurate[/b]).

:) :)

After all this discussion I did not get my answer, what are the combinations  for a Travel.  :) . I do not want any predictions, I just posted my Horoscope for verification (if required).  The heading of this forum itself is (How to intrepret in Vimsottari Dasa).

My real question as you can see was:

[i]"In one of the forum its stated that Moon and Rahu is the Karakas for foreign travel.

I have some doubts. [b]How can we know the exact time of travel by checking the Vimsottari Dasa[/b]. " [/i]

Regards

Rajesh Kakkanatt


[quote="rohiniranjan"][quote="Rajesh Kakkanatt"]Dear RR,
... Watch was only invented 100 years back but our Astrology was 5000 years old. Their was no watch that time, but they predicted (hope so) our horoscope, how?...[/quote]

Dear Rajesh,

I will tell you 'how' after you provide us with evidence regarding your assumptions about Astrology being 5000 years old (not 5002? Are you sure?) or even the watch being only a 100 years old! Ever hear of sundials? :-)

It is assumptions like these casually tossed around that make people wonder about the substance behind astrology! And it is not at all astrology's fault!

RR[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]
Re: Birth Time
Rajesh Kakkanatt


Age: 39
Zodiac:
Virgo



Joined: 28 Oct 2007
Posts: 29

Reply with quote
Hello RR,

I really wrote the truth and you are making fun of me Sir. Then what is this forum for? If you think my queries are not genuine, what else can I say.

I only asked foure questions:-

1. Ayanmsa - Which one
2. Parivarthana Yoga - A Contradictory Case ???
3. Foreign Travel - Rahu & Moon (How to intrepret in Vimsottari Dasa)
4. Daridra Yoga (Poverty Yoga) - ???

You people could not answer any single questions above! instead of not answering or  telling truth you people are not experts in Astrology, you are making fun of other.

This is like some teaches scolding his or her students (primary classes) when they ask questions which the teacher do not know, so that next time the student wont ask him any more questions.

Being a moderator of this forum, I did not except this from you. I think you misunderstood me, may be my English is poor.

Best Regards

Rajesh


rohiniranjan wrote:
Wow!

The typos are *relay* serious (hic!) ...
or should I say <SIGH!>?

May God bless you! May Reiki heal you!!

RR


Rajesh Kakkanatt wrote:
Dear Rohini Rajan,

I am relay relay serious about astrology and I am not just mocking or playing. Of course I have some serious doubts regarding Astrology. As you can see I just asked questions which are relay basic but very important for predictions, like Ayanmsa, combination of planets for travel, parivarthana yoga etc.. etc..

I do not want any personal predictions. I just want to know the reason. Still I did not get any answer for the above. instead I am getting something else   .

"One wonders really as to WHY then are you asking for help from a forum-full of strangers? Why do you not know it all already?"

I did not understand the above statement properly :( . That is the exact reason I uploaded my Horoscope.  Astrological charts are thumb prints of a person, from my horoscope reading itself one can see that I am not just taken Astrology as simple, I am really serious about it.  

One more thing I want to say is that I have only very very little knowledge about Astrology, but I am really really interested in learning it. In modern era one of the place to get knowledge is Internet and the place to discuss out doubt is forum like this.

N.B: I am not playing or mocking (you mis understood me), I just want to clear my doubts that is all. If I get a genuine answer for at least one question its precious for me.

Regards

Rajesh Kakkanatt


rohiniranjan wrote:
Rajesh,

Vedas are not carbon-dated if you must know (and even carbon dating can be off by thousands of years!). So please get serious!!

I can see that YOU have some serious doubts about many things!

You ignored my comment about sundials and provided some dates about some western inventions! We all have access to wikipedia...

But you completely forgot about the observatories and sundials builit by Indian Astronomer Kings in Ujjain and Rajasthan and other places in India!

I am sure they were not wearing watches and clocks that you mockingly reminded me of

The BOTTOMLINE SIR is that with all your levity and mocking attitude, it is YOU who is still looking for answers about astrology and your personal life etc and not I!

All I was asking in response to your public request was how do you know for sure that your birthtime was accurate and you have not really given us a good answer, other than "trust me -- my father knows!"

One wonders really as to WHY then are you asking for help from a forum-full of strangers? Why do you not know it all already?

OR DO YOU and are just playing with us? I will leave it at that...!

Rohiniranjan


Rajesh Kakkanatt wrote:
Dear RR,

Astrology was mentioned in Vedas which is 5000 years old (may be 5002 or 4098 ) and the wrist watch was invented in 1504, the first portable (but not very accurate) timepiece.

In 1656, the pendulum was invented by Christian Huygens, making clocks more accurate (Still not that accurate).



After all this discussion I did not get my answer, what are the combinations  for a Travel.   . I do not want any predictions, I just posted my Horoscope for verification (if required).  The heading of this forum itself is (How to intrepret in Vimsottari Dasa).

My real question as you can see was:

"In one of the forum its stated that Moon and Rahu is the Karakas for foreign travel.

I have some doubts. How can we know the exact time of travel by checking the Vimsottari Dasa. "


Regards

Rajesh Kakkanatt


rohiniranjan wrote:
Rajesh Kakkanatt wrote:
Dear RR,
... Watch was only invented 100 years back but our Astrology was 5000 years old. Their was no watch that time, but they predicted (hope so) our horoscope, how?...


Dear Rajesh,

I will tell you 'how' after you provide us with evidence regarding your assumptions about Astrology being 5000 years old (not 5002? Are you sure?) or even the watch being only a 100 years old! Ever hear of sundials?

It is assumptions like these casually tossed around that make people wonder about the substance behind astrology! And it is not at all astrology's fault!

RR
Re: Birth Time
Rohiniranjan


Age: 59
Zodiac:
Sagittarius



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Posts: 4316

Reply with quote
Maya and Illusions prevailed as always even when I was moderating elsewhere!

Just because I respond to so many queries you assumed that I was a moderator here, Rajesh!

Guess what?
I am not! And I hope that now that you know I am not a moderator, you will not start badgering me or abusing me, for in that situation I would not have any defence for I have no power other than to stand silent and take your abuse (as I have taken from many here and elsewhere) or to do nothing (meaning thereby = not even acknowledge the abuse or insults and not respond at all! Done that too as recently as yesterday or the day before, right here on this forum and for many years prior! It builds character, trust me!)

You say that you asked four questions:
1. Ayanmsa - Which one
2. Parivarthana Yoga - A Contradictory Case ???
3. Foreign Travel - Rahu & Moon (How to intrepret in Vimsottari Dasa)
4. Daridra Yoga (Poverty Yoga) - ???

1. I use an ayanamsha that is 30minutes away from Raman and between Lahiri and Raman. Raman ayanamsha is 1d 27m lesser than Lahiri so the ayanamsha of my choosing is nearly a degree lesser than Lahiri as I have said a few times before!

2. Any yoga is only as strong as its constituents/participants! Strong involves quality and quantity! And it is not always bad when a participant is weak! In a gajkeshari if moon is weak, the gain would come through the fact that the moon is weak and so the emotional gate is *open*. Pain would be there but the gajkeshari would represent growth!

3. The reason I was persistently probing about your *friend* was because it was a perfect example where several ayanamshas and dasha durations were producing the desired result! In other words, no matter which way you cut it, the horoscope was screaming foreign travel! But now you have to figure it out yourself! Use different ayanamshas and different dasa durations and you will see what I mean when you stop asking questions and actually begin to look at the horoscopes you already possess! Your friend's for instance!

4. Regarding daridra yoga, I have not read your postings so you are pretty much on your own!

My apologies for trying to help you, Rajesh, My genuine mistake! I should have known by now, given that I have been around for some decades on internet and did not exactly fall off the turnip truck yesterday! You know it all already and I should not have gotten in the way of your trying to teach this forum full of -- whatever you consider us to be!

May reiki help you --

Rohiniranjan


[quote="Rajesh Kakkanatt"]Hello RR,

I really wrote the truth and you are making fun of me Sir. Then what is this forum for? If you think my queries are not genuine, what else can I say.

I only asked foure questions:-

1. Ayanmsa - Which one
2. Parivarthana Yoga - A Contradictory Case ???
3. Foreign Travel - Rahu & Moon (How to intrepret in Vimsottari Dasa)
4. Daridra Yoga (Poverty Yoga) - ???

You people could not answer any single questions above! instead of not answering or  telling truth you people are not experts in Astrology, you are making fun of other.

This is like some teaches scolding his or her students (primary classes) when they ask questions which the teacher do not know, so that next time the student wont ask him any more questions.

Being a moderator of this forum, I did not except this from you. I think you misunderstood me, may be my English is poor.

Best Regards

Rajesh


[quote="rohiniranjan"]Wow!

The typos are *relay* serious (hic!) ...
or should I say <SIGH!>?

May God bless you! May Reiki heal you!!

RR


[quote="Rajesh Kakkanatt"]Dear Rohini Rajan,

I am relay relay serious about astrology and I am not just mocking or playing. Of course I have some serious doubts regarding Astrology. As you can see I just asked questions which are relay basic but very important for predictions, like Ayanmsa, combination of planets for travel, parivarthana yoga etc.. etc..

I do not want any personal predictions. I just want to know the reason. Still I did not get any answer for the above. instead I am getting something else  :) .

"One wonders really as to WHY then are you asking for help from a forum-full of strangers? Why do you not know it all already?"

I did not understand the above statement properly :( . That is the exact reason I uploaded my Horoscope.  Astrological charts are thumb prints of a person, from my horoscope reading itself one can see that I am not just taken Astrology as simple, I am really serious about it.  

One more thing I want to say is that I have only very very little knowledge about Astrology, but I am really really interested in learning it. In modern era one of the place to get knowledge is Internet and the place to discuss out doubt is forum like this.

N.B: I am not playing or mocking (you mis understood me), I just want to clear my doubts that is all. If I get a genuine answer for at least one question its precious for me.

Regards

Rajesh Kakkanatt


[quote="rohiniranjan"]Rajesh,

Vedas are not carbon-dated if you must know (and even carbon dating can be off by thousands of years!). So please get serious!!

I can see that YOU have some serious doubts about many things!

You ignored my comment about sundials and provided some dates about some western inventions! We all have access to wikipedia...

But you completely forgot about the observatories and sundials builit by Indian Astronomer Kings in Ujjain and Rajasthan and other places in India!

I am sure they were not wearing watches and clocks that you mockingly reminded me of ;-)

The BOTTOMLINE SIR is that with all your levity and mocking attitude, it is YOU who is still looking for answers about astrology and your personal life etc and not I!

All I was asking in response to your public request was how do you know for sure that your birthtime was accurate and you have not really given us a good answer, other than "trust me -- my father knows!"

One wonders really as to WHY then are you asking for help from a forum-full of strangers? Why do you not know it all already?

OR DO YOU and are just playing with us? I will leave it at that...!

Rohiniranjan


[quote="Rajesh Kakkanatt"]Dear RR,

Astrology was mentioned in Vedas which is 5000 years old (may be 5002 or 4098 :) ) and the wrist watch was invented in 1504, the first portable ([b]but not very accurate[/b]) timepiece.

In 1656, the pendulum was invented by Christian Huygens, making clocks more accurate (Still not that [b]accurate[/b]).

:) :)

After all this discussion I did not get my answer, what are the combinations  for a Travel.  :) . I do not want any predictions, I just posted my Horoscope for verification (if required).  The heading of this forum itself is (How to intrepret in Vimsottari Dasa).

My real question as you can see was:

[i]"In one of the forum its stated that Moon and Rahu is the Karakas for foreign travel.

I have some doubts. [b]How can we know the exact time of travel by checking the Vimsottari Dasa[/b]. " [/i]

Regards

Rajesh Kakkanatt


[quote="rohiniranjan"][quote="Rajesh Kakkanatt"]Dear RR,
... Watch was only invented 100 years back but our Astrology was 5000 years old. Their was no watch that time, but they predicted (hope so) our horoscope, how?...[/quote]

Dear Rajesh,

I will tell you 'how' after you provide us with evidence regarding your assumptions about Astrology being 5000 years old (not 5002? Are you sure?) or even the watch being only a 100 years old! Ever hear of sundials? :-)

It is assumptions like these casually tossed around that make people wonder about the substance behind astrology! And it is not at all astrology's fault!

RR[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]
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