Dear Sri Sreenivas Ji,

Glad to read your educative comments and what you have mentioned is very true and must while delineating the results...

However i have below some details of a chart and appreciate your observations and possible results if you can share.. This is not a reading request pre se but just to understand myself from the learned person(s) like you..

1. Ashtama Sani gives adverse results for some Ascendants when it is a malefic by Panchada Maitri determination.

CD = Aries Ascendant LL is natural enemy of Shani. And Rajat murti placed in Vipat Tara

2. You also have to see the position of Sani in a particular  Nakshatra, it's Lord and the Position of the Nakshatra Lord are all to be seen., not merely Rasi Position alone.

CD = Shani Placed in 3H in Retro and in Nakshatra of Ardra 4th Pada ruled by Rahu Nakshatra Lord Rahu is placed in 8H (Scorpio) who in turn is in Sani’s Nakshatra Anuradha 4th Pada here I think it is a Sookshma Parivartana  

3. You have to study also with respect to the Navamsa Chart.[ Rasi Tulya Navamsa.]

CD = In Navamsa Rahu is Vargottama

4. The Dispositor of the Sani in Rasi, as well as Navamsa is to be studied, before declaring the Bad effects of Sani.

CD = Dispositor of Sani is Mercury is also in Retro Placed in 10H house lord is Shani Here there is an exchange of 3rd and 10th Lord in D-1 Navamsa despositor is Jupiter

5.  Last but not the Least, You have to find the Shadbala of Sani, Its Dipositor in Rasi and it's Dispositor in Navamsa. A strong Sani can cause more bad effects than a week one

CD = Shadbala of Shani = 93% Mercury  = 125 despositor in D-1 Jupiter = 88 despositor in D-9

Now could you please share your observations on overall effects of Sani?

How will be the Sani’s period for the native? In Mahadasa or the current Sani Antar Dasa in Jupiter Mahadasa? I am currently running Jupiter MD and Shani AD

And Transit Sani is in 8H from Moon now!

Birth details: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund Karnataka

Note: All my above details are using Lahiri Ayanmsa

Appreciate your kind feedback

Regards

ChanDubai

also ashtam shani will have drishti on the 10th, 2nd and  5th bhaav (3-7-10), shouldn't we consider drishits?
will it ask for discipline in these areas?

i have  kumbha rashi and my astam shani will be starting this year. but as kumbha is lorded by shani itself and is uchcha and vakra in tula will it be gud?

shani in tula rashi ( vishakha nakshatra ) also vishakha is lorded by jupiter which is lagna lord placed in lagna itself.
but also jupiter placed in poorva ashadha lorded by venus and venus is in kumbha rashi lorded by shani again. also venus and shani are in parivartana ( kumbha - tula )
so there u go .  its a full circle of bureaucracy. who will do my work? :(

but venus is also atma karaka for this chart and
venus is in poorva bhadra though lorded by jupiter so they(guru and sukra) have some sookshma parivartana as mentioned by chandubai above.
moon is in dhanishta nakshatra(lorded by mangal) and mangal (in vrishchika rashi) is yuti with shani in chalit chakra.

what approximate results?
any rough sketch will do please.

p.s. even after all this mathematics its hard to see the meanings clearly with a not so clear mind which is the nature of THE MIND.
i should probably practice some samyama, vinyasa to get a clear mind to see the meanings and probably then i will be able to help myself.
but ironically if i m in that state will i need astrological help? because yoga is what liberates the soul from this mathematics of prakriti.

is this delibrate confusion or nature of nature where there is no difference between prerequisite and result? just an illusion of transformation and things remain the same. so things can be eternal and
without movement no time can exist.
hmm so thats why time is an illusion?


oh man! i really have a disturbed mercury.
so where was i? ya
any rough sketch will do please. please help your fellow travelers. :D


jai hind  

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HI all.

Just trying to revive this dead thread as Saturn will soon entering new life in Virgo.  

As Rohinji is not any more on MB, can any other guru please explain the statement by Rohinji-- quote -->  "It is not saturn's relationship with the rashi it is transiting but the moon's relationship to the rashi/lord which saturn is transiting that will determine if the period (2.5 years at a time!) would be positive or negative! "

also I would like to know How does exalted Sat effect a native during Sade saati and or as Kantaka Shani for whom he is the lagnesh.  Somehow i am not able to link up RRji's sentence to understand  exalted Shani during Sade Saati or Kantaka period.


awaiting your reply


warmly
Asro

"It is not saturn's relationship with the rashi it is transiting but the moon's relationship to the rashi/lord which saturn is transiting that will determine if the period (2.5 years at a time!) would be positive or negative! "

Is not always true.  for example Leo is ruled by sun who is good friend of Moon ( moon does not have enemies). Saturn is not so good in leo ( we know last 2.5 years been troublesome for the world). sun is father and saturn is leo. but saturn hates his father.

Now mercury is born to Jupiter's wife and Moon. Mercury hates moon as he does not have father ( as jupiter hates mercury ). He grew in venus home so he likes venus so much. Saturn is his friend as saturn and venus are mutual friends.

Saturn is entering virgo when friend mercury (exalted ) is present. But he is entering as astha ( sun is eclisping him). Virgo is about virgin and analytical levels. Umarried virgo females need to take care of themselves that they dont enter into illicit relations. next 2.5 years is period for post mortem where all the issues/problems will be put under micro scope and wrongdoings will be unearthed.

A respite for cancer and Leo people. for virgo's he is entering belly.
for virgo pregant females there chance of abortion.

For people born in saggi , saturn is entering 10th house ( as saturn is karmadhipathi). There major change in career expected.

Namstey Astroji



Thanx for your prompt reply and especially clearing the doubt  I had.  I got confused with RRji sentence thinking of Sat in leo causing distress though Sun n moon get along super cool !

Now that Sat is moving into his friends house in Vrigo, he bids adieu to Cancer , but shall continue his teaching for Leo for least 2.5 yrs.    In Virgo exalted mercury is all set to welcome his friend to stay for 2.5 yrs, inspite knowing it wont be easy for him.

Astroji incase you  find some more time  would you please shed some light on Astham Shani, as this transit will mark the Astham Shani period for Kumbh Lagna.  

Let me tell you what confuses me.
1. How is Suffering during Sade sati and Ashtam  Shani Different
2. As Shani is moving towards his exaltation sign will he be malefic of lesser magnitude. -- a ) Incase a native has Exalted shani and/or lagnesh will the suffering be even less ?  


warmly
Asro