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rohiniranjan


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THANK YOU!

[quote="Rhutobello"]Thx for the links....it seems to be a bulls eye for me :)


It seems for me to be a post that might help a lot of people over a longer period of time....so I make it sticky.[/quote]
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Given my past few decades of observing what comes through intellect as opposed to instinct and direct observation and experiencing of those that know and those that are psychic on compuserve and internet and so on -- it makes sense that we question ourselves and others around us!

And if during our questioning -- we get attacked we rejoice! For we have hit GOLD!

It does not matter who learns from that experience or who brings the gold home in this lifetime -- I have not seen one dead person take with him or her during the last journey -- the GOLD they accumulated! BUT I cannot say the same for the GOLD/LOVE they collected when alive and even after they have been dead for some time!

Rohiniranjan

<please challenge this post and ask how it connects to the jyotish that you think it should be!>

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[quote="rohiniranjan"]The way to learn astrology, to me has been simply how our ancestors began!

It must have been an evening when I felt secure -- no threat around that 'threatens' me firstly and those that I consider my family and friends?

SAFE in having arrived at that point in my EVOLUTION, I looked up for it was too dark anyway to look around and figure what was moving in the 'bushes' next to me!

But really more importantly -- if you can tune into that prehistoric mindset -- it was a MOMENT when the bushes were known and SAFE!

With that mindset (please humor me folks!) -- I looked up and saw the horns of a goat! Perhaps the goat had given me a lot of trouble today? Or maybe I just happened to have a wonderful meal TODAY that included goat cheese (TRUE)

I truly believe that astrologic did start with simple assumptions and beliefs like that!

It is up to US if we allow it to stay there or let it grow with us, individually or collectively!

RR[/quote]


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PRIMARY CONSIDERATIONS:

When learning astrology, one first learns about the zodiac and planets and houses.  Rashis themselves are neutral, they have good, bad and mixed attributes in different segments of the 30 degree span but are also separated in groups that are satwic (brahmin rashis, karka, vrischika and meena), rajasic (kshatriya, mesha, simha, dhanu), vaishya - a combination of rajasik and tamasika with a tiny bit of satwik (mithuna, tula, Kumba) and shudra or tamasik (vrishbha, kanya, makar).  This is often mistaken to mean the properties of the rashis.  Actually, it is not so.  Planets that are of one of the four qualities are likely to perform their intrinsic character best in the sign that allows natural amplification.  Jupiter the brahmin will express best when in karka, vrischica and meena, while a rajasic planet like mars would be at its best in mesha, simha and dhanu.

It must be obvious now that planets, unlike rashis have personal attributes that fit into the four castes used in the hindu culture and abused in more recent times in India!  By recent I mean the last few centuries, of course.

The houses, though in essence same as rashis are different from their cosmic framework (as Rashis are above, so Houses or Bhavas are below...)  because they have gunas and are not neutral!  While rashis may work more as amplifiers or reflectors (if you [planet] have the light it will shine in a certain rashi, bhavas can be amplifiers as well as active reducers or prisons for planets, indeed not allowing them to express to their best potential.  An exalted planet placed in a malefic bhava can lose its potential and remain an underutilized gift for the lifetime.  This can, of course, be modified through the use of astrology!  Hence rather than being a doom and gloom prospect, it becomes an opportunity to exercise wisdom and flow with the ‘tides’ of TIME in other words!

Beginners make the mistake and sadly encouraged by some teachers who want to make technicians of them and pump them confusingly choc-full of ill-digested techniques, mazes of timing periods and mutually contradictory yogas and arishtas.  I am not saying that these are not important, to add to ones repertoire particularly where confusing indications show up in a few charts, but certainly cause and create more confusion in many students than otherwise.

If I were teaching someone to learn astrology, I would ask them to focus a lot of time and attention to just the basic chart and to really decipher the meaning of the rashis, planets and bhavas in a given chart, studying each planet as an entity, a deva – a Cosmoanthropomorphic entity, a planet personified if you will.  Once this has been done, then one looks at the roles the planets play in the chart, roles such as their association with houses or bhavas through their variety of roles: as rulers; as karakas - different types as described in my article published in Express Starteller (May 2007, Karako Bhav Nashaya), through association with other planets (friendships etc).  As these complex networking becomes incorporated and better understood, we then can begin to look at yogas.  Against the background of our complete understanding of the planets, it would be easier to look at yogas and combinations as fruitful, ineffective, or those that are sitting on the fence and waiting to be influenced the right way, through the actions and free-will of the nativity (remedies)!

But that is unglamourous to most, a tedious trek through a field of tall grass!  And that is why I say that the fears often expressed by jyotishis who are worried about the secrets of jyotish falling into wrong hands – are baseless!  Jyotish has a built-in protection...!

RR (c) Crystal Pages, 2007
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PARTICULARLY THE PRAISES :-)

INSULTS WILL BE ADDRESSED PRIVATELY!

RR


[quote="Rhutobello"]Thx for the links....it seems to be a bulls eye for me :)


It seems for me to be a post that might help a lot of people over a longer period of time....so I make it sticky.


[color=darkred][size=18]I will make it clear that only Rohiniranjan is allowed to post in this thread.[/size][/color]

[b]All other request...discussions..and praises will be removed.

This so done so it will be easier for all to find the information needed![/b]

[color=darkred][b]From time to time subjects that need discussions will be brought up.
Please start then a new thread and give reference to his post.
We urge you all to attend to a discussion...because that way you learn faster and get more understanding about the material.[/b][/color][/quote]
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Reading break!

I do not know for sure if the Anthology by 36 'teachers' compiled by Late Richard Houk is still available or not, but if it is, please acquire it! It has the usual "stuff' but also some gems!

in fact I googled it and it is available at:

http://www.astroamerica.com/v-houck.html

HINDU ASTROLOGY LESSONS: 36 Teachers share their wisdom

RR
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