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arian_1c
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:38 am |
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There are two realities: Newtonian and Quantum, as modern Physics has now recognized and validated.
The Newtonian Universe is what most scientists and rationalists know and love, because it is better understood, more predictable and works mostly like a streamlined, well designed machine.
All applied scientists (for instance engineers and doctors) love that realm because it increases certainties, reduces unwelcome surprises and reduce headaches for them as they build their bridges and mansions or treat patients.
The Quantum reality is more ephemeral, almost mystical but while it is full of uncertainties (and not all of those unpredictable -- as Heisenberg demonstrated/observed) it is also full of possibilities that expand our Newtonian Universe or Newtonian window into Total Reality!
Jyotish is something that bridges the two view portals. Its springboard is Newtonian reality, because we calculate planets and all other astronomical stuff using Newtonian principles. But once the chart is erected we begin to use this Newtonian map to delve into the Quantum reality that the HUMAN EXPERIENCE as I call it, really is! Think about that for a minute!
There is nothing in astrological 'logic' that is readily explainable based on Newtonian mindsets! And yet we keep testing astrology through Newtonian paradigms and reach nowhere or worse: wrong conclusions as to how astrology works! How karma works, how the spirit reality that astrology tunes into works! And we run into the conundrum that has intrigued and frustrated physicists for many many years: Is light a wave or particle!
To some extent medicine also presents a similar experience. The machines, the diagnostic protocols and SOPs, the precise medication and doses and all that surrounds it are to a large extent Newtonian, but given all things equal, disease, background, constitution, sometimes even genes (identical twins), the two individuals respond differently to the same disease with one showing an incredible will to live while the other giving up readily. That to me represents the Quantum glimpse that reminds us that there is a halo around the Newtonian principles -- some choose to call that halo an angel, soul, even GOD!
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wow....really RR ji, don't get me wrong, how do u come up with this...
the newtonian and the quantum physics...its just like looking in the mirror with present query...
u r really a man of many words sir, hats off
regards to all
sahil
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Rohiniranjan
Age: 59 Zodiac: 
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:59 am |
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Sahil ji,
The credit all goes to those who I responded to. Answers are many, but the credit goes to the right question, always!
A question is like a seed! The right answer lies dormant within it, always!
Switching back to Newtonian reaility for this one, if I may -- if you desire for mangoes, planting pumpkin seeds would not help! Like I said: A question is like a seed. The answer that flows/emerges would not if the seed was different!
Don't you agree?
RR
[quote="arian_1c"][quote="rohiniranjan"]There are two realities: Newtonian and Quantum, as modern Physics has now recognized and validated.
The Newtonian Universe is what most scientists and rationalists know and love, because it is better understood, more predictable and works mostly like a streamlined, well designed machine.
All applied scientists (for instance engineers and doctors) love that realm because it increases certainties, reduces unwelcome surprises and reduce headaches for them as they build their bridges and mansions or treat patients.
The Quantum reality is more ephemeral, almost mystical but while it is full of uncertainties (and not all of those unpredictable -- as Heisenberg demonstrated/observed) it is also full of possibilities that expand our Newtonian Universe or Newtonian window into Total Reality!
Jyotish is something that bridges the two view portals. Its springboard is Newtonian reality, because we calculate planets and all other astronomical stuff using Newtonian principles. But once the chart is erected we begin to use this Newtonian map to delve into the Quantum reality that the HUMAN EXPERIENCE as I call it, really is! Think about that for a minute!
There is nothing in astrological 'logic' that is readily explainable based on Newtonian mindsets! And yet we keep testing astrology through Newtonian paradigms and reach nowhere or worse: wrong conclusions as to how astrology works! How karma works, how the spirit reality that astrology tunes into works! And we run into the conundrum that has intrigued and frustrated physicists for many many years: Is light a wave or particle!
To some extent medicine also presents a similar experience. The machines, the diagnostic protocols and SOPs, the precise medication and doses and all that surrounds it are to a large extent Newtonian, but given all things equal, disease, background, constitution, sometimes even genes (identical twins), the two individuals respond differently to the same disease with one showing an incredible will to live while the other giving up readily. That to me represents the Quantum glimpse that reminds us that there is a halo around the Newtonian principles -- some choose to call that halo an angel, soul, even GOD!
RR[/quote]
wow....really RR ji, don't get me wrong, how do u come up with this...
the newtonian and the quantum physics...its just like looking in the mirror with present query...
u r really a man of many words sir, hats off
regards to all
sahil[/quote]
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arian_1c
Age: 28 Zodiac: 
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:05 pm |
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| rohiniranjan wrote: |
Sahil ji,
A question is like a seed! The right answer lies dormant within it, always!
Switching back to Newtonian reality for this one, if I may -- if you desire for mangoes, planting pumpkin seeds would not help! Like I said: A question is like a seed. The answer that flows/emerges would not if the seed was different!
Don't you agree?
RR
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no questioning that, but many a times, its how u put something tht makes a whole lot of difference, i think u've got a thesaurus with lots of anomalies , metaphors and similes
regards to all
sahil
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Rohiniranjan
Age: 59 Zodiac: 
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:26 pm |
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[quote="arian_1c"][quote="rohiniranjan"]Sahil ji,
A question is like a seed! The right answer lies dormant within it, always!
Switching back to Newtonian reality for this one, if I may -- if you desire for mangoes, planting pumpkin seeds would not help! Like I said: A question is like a seed. The answer that flows/emerges would not if the seed was different!
Don't you agree?
RR
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no questioning that, but many a times, its how u put something tht makes a whole lot of difference, i think u've got a thesaurus with lots of anomalies , metaphors and similes :)
regards to all
sahil[/quote]
Sahil ji,
"how you put it" literally applies to planting a seed too. Some seeds are hardy such as wildgrass or Shilajit which will grow even in rocky soil while others are more tender and need extra care, tilling of soil, right moisture, right temperature, right nutrients and so on. The analogy applies, in other case.
I did not understand your reference to a thesaurus. I do have a thesaurus in my word-processor <quizzical look>
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