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What can I do in this relationship?
aquarising


Age: 24
Zodiac:
Pisces



Joined: 03 Nov 2009
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What can I do in this relationship?

I have been on and off with an aries guy for years. Our relationship
went from friends > lovers (short term) > friends. There was also a
long distance between us.
I tried to broke contact with him twice because of frustration and I
believed in all or nothing... However, we always failed to banish each
other from our  life. It seems like our relationship needs to go through
a lot of transformation.
This time, it happened very suddenly. In text message, he said
something very hurtful two days after we had our first intimate
contact. The way he tried to convince me that he's bad reminds
me of what I've done to him before.
Maybe he's really that bad and manipulative. I'm just finding excuses
for him but I don't care. It's not easy to build up a friendship with someone
and I really cherish the give-and-take we had in the past few
years. After all these up and downs I still couldn't bring myself to
hate him nor being indifferent to him. I adore him like it's a kind of
nature and now realise that "all or nothing" is somehow too extreme.

Right now I am afraid to contact him or to take any action because
I tend to say things I don't really mean. Maybe I need to be
patient and let the time determine?
Drew the cards 2 days ago on the internet and wanted to know
what I can do about this relationship.

Aquarian Tarot (Major Arcana only)
Hexefus Spread


I didn't know how to interprete. According to the website the
spread indicates


1st card -  the past, STAR (reversed)
2nd card - the present, Empress
3rd card - the future, Hierophant
4th card - the solution, Moon (reversed)
5th card - the surrounding circumstance, Temperance (reversed)
6th card - the wish, Tower (reversed)
7th card - the conclusion, Death (reversed)


Thanks in advance for your precious time.

Peace  
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cedars
Tarot reader

Age: 55
Zodiac:
Cancer



Joined: 18 Apr 2007
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Hello aquarising,

what was your question before you drew the cards?

And, may I ask why did you got down the route of Major Arcana-only?
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aquarising


Age: 24
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Joined: 03 Nov 2009
Posts: 13

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Hi Cedars,


My question was,
What can I do in this relationship (to make it better)?

I used an online tarot reading script at appleboxman dot com and it does not include minor arcana...
Is this inappropriate and should I draw again with using all the cards?

Thank you.
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cedars
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Hello Acquarising,

There is nothing wrong in doing a reading with Major Arcana only, but these are cards that speak about our inner soul, mind, psyche…… and they do not handle the details of our day to day events of life. I will give you my interpretation of these cards based on the Rider Waite deck. I am not sure what deck your software used on line.


1st card - the past, STAR (reversed)
Your past was uninspiring, not much to look forward to and nothing to aim for. Any sense of nurturing of what was around you, including your own life, was simply lost in the dark.

2nd card - the present, Empress
In contrast to the past, your present is now full of sexuality, in touch with all your physical senses and desires; ready to nurture like Mother Nature.

3rd card - the future, Hierophant
Some learning to do on the earthly realm, i.e. develop your own earthly existence both through your mind and body and follow tradition and the conventional way of life which is what probably suits your character and upbringing.

4th card - the solution, Moon (reversed)
Get in touch with the reality of things and discard any illusions that may surround this issue. I mean, call a spade a spade and don’t get lost in a wishful thinking and being in a daze of ‘what if this and what if that’ could happen. Handle the situation as it comes to you in its naked truth.

5th card - the surrounding circumstance, Temperance (reversed)
A sense of imbalance and disharmony in your surrounding circumstances, if that makes sense to you. Whilst in its upright position this card would stand for harmony, moderation, healing and blending of the mind, body and soul, I feel your surrounding circumstances, whether people or your environment as such, is not giving you that sense of harmony.

6th card - the wish, Tower (reversed)
Whilst an upright Tower would be bringing down the existing order; an order which is no longer making sense or even working for you, do I sense that you wish to continue with things as they are and not bring about a change? I also feel your wish is not to have any external influences or forces ‘destroy’ what you currently have.

7th card - the conclusion, Death (reversed)
Like the above, I feel the conclusion will be stagnation of a situation where change is not desired nor is it sought after. This explains in a way what you seem to want out of this connection with this guy: neither finish it off, nor continue with it the way it is – all or nothing.

The above is how I see the cards that have come up in your reading, but I am somehow uncomfortable that you chose such a spread to answer your question. As for going to a computer or an on-line software reading, hmmmmm, I cannot comment on that and will not make any judgements..
I understand where you are with this guy: can’t be with you, can’t be without you. It feels to me almost a compulsive connection you both have with each other (or in this case, you with him) but at the same time you are right to want ALL or Nothing. There is nothing wrong with that wish of yours my friend. Can you have a friendship with someone towards whom you have strong feelings? If your answer to that is Yes, then I do hope and wish that it wont come back and cause you issues in the future when you might be forced to follow your true concept of All or Nothing. I have to admit took that the cards have shown you the situation you are in right now whereby you are too scared to make contact with him lest it spoiled the current situation between you, albeit a flux situation of some stalemate.

As the cards were picked for you a computer and I did the interpretation only,
I would like to hear if any of them made sense to your situation. We can go info further discussion from there onwards if you so wish.

I wish you all the best in your current state of mind and may peace and harmony be with you.

Hugs
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aquarising


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Thank you so much for helping me on the reading! Really appreciate it. And sorry for the late reply. They do make sense to me but I feel that something is blocking my mind. Perhaps it is because I have been distracting myself with other things these few days. I will try my best to response to your insightful interpretation and explain my thoughts in a clear way with my limited English vocabularies.

1st card - the past, STAR (reversed)
Quote:
Your past was uninspiring, not much to look forward to and nothing to aim for. Any sense of nurturing of what was around you, including your own life, was simply lost in the dark.


Yes. I have been having that kind of feeling for a long time. Don't know which direction I should go, what I really want to do for living etc. Feel that I have lost the passion of life. Also have a negative self-image that makes me believe that I am not capable of doing anything.

2nd card - the present, Empress
Quote:
In contrast to the past, your present is now full of sexuality, in touch with all your physical senses and desires; ready to nurture like Mother Nature.


Not afraid to admit my desires now. Recently I also asked for sex advice from friends which I was afraid to do. Besides, it was not really necessary for me.
I have done so many things that brought him pressures. I always want to be more selfless and genlte. Still want to be the nurturing type and want to treat him better but now feel that the chance has been taken away from me.

3rd card - the future, Hierophant
Quote:
Some learning to do on the earthly realm, i.e. develop your own earthly existence both through your mind and body and follow tradition and the conventional way of life which is what probably suits your character and upbringing.


Recently I was thinking about working in my cousin's company, to become down to earth and act like an adult. I have spent so much time in my own world. Maybe it is time to do something practical.

4th card - the solution, Moon (reversed)
Quote:
Get in touch with the reality of things and discard any illusions that may surround this issue. I mean, call a spade a spade and don’t get lost in a wishful thinking and being in a daze of ‘what if this and what if that’ could happen. Handle the situation as it comes to you in its naked truth.


I do have a wishful thinking and fantasize that things will become better in the way I want.

5th card - the surrounding circumstance, Temperance (reversed)
Quote:
A sense of imbalance and disharmony in your surrounding circumstances, if that makes sense to you. Whilst in its upright position this card would stand for harmony, moderation, healing and blending of the mind, body and soul, I feel your surrounding circumstances, whether people or your environment as such, is not giving you that sense of harmony.


I strongly felt a sense of disharmony in September till few days before he tried to break contact, in early October. As I mentioned in the first post, there was a long distance between us. I came back home in May and everything seemed fine since then. Despite our history, there were no ill feelings. But he suddenly became indifferent toward me in September. I thought this relationship was imbalanced and could not understand why the heat always turned cold after some time. Also, got very jealous when he rather shared news or be with other friends. I believed that I said something not nice and made the situation worse. Moreover, he was going through a career transition... (He is still looking for a new job)

Right now I don't specially feel the sense of imbalance except the repression of telling him what I feel. Really hope he will know that what he did doesn't disgust me or make me hate him but instead of saying that I still want him in my life, I choose doing nothing.
Another thing I am trying to hide is that a best friend of his said something bad about him to me when I was in a very depressed condition last year. I can never be sure if the things are true but they still bothering me and caused my resentment toward his friend...

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6th card - the wish, Tower (reversed)
Whilst an upright Tower would be bringing down the existing order; an order which is no longer making sense or even working for you, do I sense that you wish to continue with things as they are and not bring about a change? I also feel your wish is not to have any external influences or forces ‘destroy’ what you currently have.

7th card - the conclusion, Death (reversed)

Like the above, I feel the conclusion will be stagnation of a situation where change is not desired nor is it sought after. This explains in a way what you seem to want out of this connection with this guy: neither finish it off, nor continue with it the way it is – all or nothing.


Yes. Although there is nothing much can be destroyed anymore, I am afraid of any impulsive action that would make things "heavier" or bring bigger disappointment. Yes, what can be more disappointed than something precious you and a special one build up with time and true heart collapse within a second? If I have learnt something in this, it is that I will treat my family and friends better thatn I ever did...

Deep down in my heart, I do not believe that this relationship exists just because I have some kind of value so that he could take advantage of me and that he has no feelings toward me  (he said so in text message). We spent so much time talking and sharing with each other since we met. If he was after material benefits, then he had waited far too long as I did lend him money few months ago for his family emergency (6 years later!!).
I am not contacting him because I assume he will only repeat what he has told me. Sometimes, through instant messenger or social network I know that he is feeling awful too, though it can mean something other than love or heartbroken... maybe regret?
On the other hand, I can't help suspecting that I am trapped in my self-deception. Okay, now I know that my mind is swinging between ‘what if this and what if that’ as you said.


It has been a few time that I made up my mind and ready to stick to it but after some time would be disturbed again.
Nevertheless, I think that I am doing much more better than before. I used to spend too much time on insoluble problems, questions without answers and ended up getting into a dead end.

This time, some part of me wants to handle it in a subtle way and let things stay vague. Another part of me has noticed some kind of pattern in this relationship and believe that it is supposed to be on & off. Some of my friends told me not to wait, move on. Only one of them, and my dad, said that let nature take its course.


I have aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/tarot-of-the-old-path/]The Tarot of Old Path. I used the online reading software (which uses aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/aquarian/]Aquarian Tarot) as I didn't have the deck beside me. Will only use my own one in the future

You really get the picture of where we are right now. Somethings has to be changed but I don't know what it is and how to. We have tried to avoid contacting each other. I tried to let my feelings die, find someone else and something else to do. They didn't work, so I guess they are not the right solution. And yes, if I have a friendship with him, I believe that the conflict of friend/lover will come back again. So... am I in a dilemma ?If it is not troublesome, could you have a reading for me? I desperately need some guide and his true feelings.


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