Hi Cedars

You very kindly did the reading below for me in April which has been pretty spot on for the months that have passed. (Previous reading copy and pasted apologies if this is the incorrect way to do this)

I hope you don't consider it presumtious of me to see if you could do a follow up reading as we are approaching a new year and a personal milestone for me as I turn 40 in a couple of days.

The situation re this guy hasn't changed. He pops in and out of my life, brief conversations and every time I think that's I'm over him, up he pops, and I realise I still have the same old feelings. The only change is that I think he too is now single however I still can't see us having any opportunity to explore our feelings that's assuming he still has any towards me which I have no idea of.

I would just like some idea as I'm going into what I see as a new era for me personally what there could be romantically on the horizon for me either with him or someone else.

From reading other posts Cedars I understand you have not been well so I don't mean to hassle you at all, and I hope you are getting better. Please only do a reading for me if you have the time and if you are well, I'll totally understand you can't read for me.

Love

Red

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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:14 pm    
 

I would be really grateful if someone could do a reading for me as I feel like my head is going to explode!

Normally I do three card readings for myself and friends on an informal basis which I don't have a problem understanding and I feel quite instinctive and clear about them.

I've hit a brick wall with reading for myself in relation to a man I’ve had feelings for during the last couple of years and I can’t get rid of them in spite of having had relationships with other guys in the meantime. There has been a mutual attraction between us but we’ve never been single at the same time. I’m pretty sure he is seeing someone at the moment and I’m single.

I know I’m having problems because it's about my emotions and a man! I look at the cards and I just see a million and one different meanings, no clarity and voices in my head which say well it could mean this or it could mean this. What I can't distinguish between is - is a reading just representing my desires so not reality or is it indicating changes or advice.
For example the 2 of cups is it saying yes you will get an emotional approach from this man or is it saying that's what I want not necessarily what I'll get.

What I’d like to know is when I am I going to move on from this guy – I don’t think we will have a relationship – it’s sort of missed its moment. And are there any other men on the horizon who will replace him in my feelings?

Cedars:  

hello Red29,

I understand your dilemma and more so with your last statement where you say, "And are there any other men on the horizon who will replace him in my feelings?" Quite a challenge here.

I picked some cards for you from the Rider Waite deck.

YOU NOW: The Queen of Wands.(Leo)
Busy, successful lifestyle, charming and stylish person. Can be direct in her business dealings, almost showing no heart, but she knows how to enjoy life, how to dress and how to have a good time. She holds a wand in one hand and a sunflower in the other. She is close to earth and reaps the benefits of her hard work. She is energetic, creative and can jump from one prospect or project to the other - very much the woman on the fast lane. Whatever your sex is Red29, your current state is similar to that of our queen or perhpas you should adopt some of her qualities for yourself.

POSITIVE INFLUENCES: King of Cups. (Cancer)
A loving man, husband, father figure whose heart rules his head (nothing wrong with that). He gives good advice, he is nurturing to those he loves, he is selfless and puts himself down for the sake (and love) of others who are part of his family and close circle.
His influence in your life is positive, whether he is a father figure for you or a man in your life who brings you love and understanding. Some might say he lacks vision and foresight, but I wouldn't say those attributes are what you are looking for in terms of his persona currently influencing your life.

OBSTACLES/ HINDRANCES (negative energies): Ten of Swords.
A state of having lost it all, diminished to the ground like this guy in the card lying flat on the floor, with dark clouds  in the sky and ten swords stabbing his back. The lowest that one can get in a situation and, depending on the personality of an individual, he would even look up and say with a cynical smile: " So what else can go wrong with me?" Not all, I might add, have that humour against adversity in life. However, despite the downfall, there is a positive side to this state: wouldn't you say that there was no other way but UPWARDS from a state such as this one? I mean, what else can go wrong when one has reached to this level? The next step to go is up and gaining control on one's affairs and life in general.

MESSAGE FROM THE TAROT. The Sun.
And indeed, rebirth, the dawning of a new day as this major Arcana card signifies. A rebirth like the naked child on the white horse and sunflowers behind him. The child signifies a sense of simplicity and innocense. This is beautiful card as it heralds a beginning which is clear and warm as the sun, and may even signify a trip to a warm climate to recharge your batteries and start afresh.

SUMMARY/OUTCOME: The Hermit.
Another major Arcana card where the hermit is seeking knowledge by holding his lantern in the dark. The knowledge may not be acquired quick and in a haphazard way; it is like holding the lantern low enough to the ground to enable you to see how you should take your next step. It is a time of introspection into your self and time to learn a few things about your soul, the person you are and what you would like to achieve in this life. This is a period for yourself where only you can see what your next path should be, but before embarking on that new path, some knowledge is necessary for your mind and soul. The lantern should serve you as the light and a beacon for your inner soul.

I dont know how this answers your questions about this guy in your life Red29. Between the King of Cups and the Sun, there is this phase of low energy in the form of the Ten of Swords. As to who the King of Cups is in your life bringing positive energies, only you know that. But I cannot put aside your last sentence about 'replacing your feelings' with other or An Other man. Is that really what you want? Replacing your emotions for this guy with someone else? Isnt this struggle in itself perhaps the lowest point for you in your current state? Am hoping the next two cards will inspire you.

I do hope this reading has shed some light on your situation and please do let us know how things pan out for your in the near future.

Would appreciate your feedback, if you've got a few spare minutes.

Best of luck and blessings in this current journey of yours.

cedars
 


 
red29
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:00 pm    
 

Hi Cedars

Thank you so much for taking the time to do this for me.

The Queen of Wands is def me and yes I'm female. I run my own business and can be on the go all the time. I normally think of myself as a cross between the Queens of Wands and Pentacles. I'm a capricorn.

Not sure who the King of Cups - def not my father - could be the man in question but if it is not sure how he is a positie influence!!

10 of swords - I don't feel like this at the moment my feelings are more of frustration as I can go a few months by not seeing this guy and then I see him and the feelings are still there!!! But I'm hoping there isn't worse to come yet!

Sun and the Hermit - give me some hope!


As to your question yes unfortunately I do want to get rid of these feelings otherwise I fear I could still be in the same boat in a couple of years time and he'll be happily married oblivious to my feelings!!! By the way I'm not normally like this with men - normally I can move on really quickly- I f I was meant to learn soemthing from this experience I've still not discovered what it is!!

Once again thank you so much for doing this reading.
 


 
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   Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:11 pm    
 

Thank you Red29.
Dont be so hard on yourself about still having feelings for this man, even if he is oblivious or ends up marrying someone else. Please dont put yourself down.
The fact that you wish to free yourself of these feelings is a step in the right direction......but feelings... they have a mind of their own, dont they?

You look after yourself and tell us how you get on.

Cheers and blessings.
cedars

Dear Red

Good to hear you are doing well and HAPPY 40th BIRTHDAY to you!!!

Your situation struck a chord with me; I can relate to it from my own personal experience and, therefore, I feel with you. It is not a pleasant situation to be in – having feelings for someone and yet not seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. And then he comes into your life and then disappears, only to come back and shake up the relative calm you had created for yourself.
I sense he will stay in your radar this time and I think it is up to you how you handle him. I suggest that you do not come across as desperate for his company and yet not too distant.  I believe you should now play it as per your rules: if he wants to see you or go out with you, it will be on your terms and whenever you are free to do so. Not jump at his every whichever idea at the drop of a hat. Are you getting the picture? I am sorry; relationships have got to have these manoeuvres sometimes, even though I personally dislike playing strategy games.

I don’t see him leaving your energy field and I also see you have gathered some strength this time round, Red. Stick to that new strength; it will help you.

I have picked some cards for you from the Rider Waite and using  Advice for a Situation spread:

HOW YOU SEE THE OTHER PERSON: Two of Wands:
I feel you would like this person to have foresight and finally make a choice and stick to it. Wads are of the fire element and they represent passion. Whilst this man is looking out into the horizon and considering his choice, I feel you have had enough of waiting for him to make that decision or choice. He will make that choice though, sooner or later.

HOW THE OTHER PERSON SEES YOU: Judgement:
As I mentioned above, I feel he also sees you as someone who has had a rebirth in her attitudes and outlook to life. Perhaps you have already given him the impression that you will not be messed about and that you have cleared the cobwebs and will not hold on to your old baggage and will not let him bring you down.

WHAT YOU NEED: Ten of Pentacles.
You need, like most of us, contentment in the material world combined with a happy family life around you. Nothing wrong with that  

WHAT THE OTHER PERSON NEEDS: The Devil.
He needs to break free from the chains of bondage both within his life and also in his attitude of coming in and out of your life. The bondage that he has been subjected to has been of all the physical pleasures and this is something he has to break free from. It is not your duty to do it for him, Red. As I said above, with your new attitude towards him, he will come to realise that all that The Devil has represented for him is no longer a viable option to continue.

WHERE THIS RELATIONSHIP IS NOW: Queen of Cups.
When I look at the Queen of Cups, I can’t help but get this feeling of ‘being under the influence’ or of intoxication. There are all those gentle and warm feelings like the queen usually shows to her loved ones, intuition and insight that you both know exactly where it may go, but I sense these qualities have been clouded by someone who is addicted to drugs and intoxication. There needs to be a wake up call and coming out of this addictive situation so that both of you can see where your intuition is leading you.

WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE THE RELATIONSHIP TO GO: Page of Swords.
Light-hearted, teenage style fun times? Bring the ‘fun’ element into it like the Page of Swords who can be carefree at times and with bright ideas at other times. I understand that you have not had fun times together with this guy and I sense that there is a desire to take this to the level of fun with a slight warning though: beware of the Devil which he is trying (or needs to) break free from.

WHERE THE OTHER PERSON WOULD LIKE THE RELATIONSHIP TO GO: Six of Wands.
Success, victory and attainment. You must have been a challenge to this guy, even if he has not said so himself. If he is looking to ‘conquer’ you, well all credit to you for keeping him on his toes, but I would add a warning here that you should not be a conquest to him only to satisfy his ego. I would still go back to my previous advice for you to keep your guard and not be too accommodating to all of his wishes and desires. Let both of you enjoy the victory and success of coming together, but not a one-sided victory.

FACTORS TO BE CONSIDERED: The Hierophant.
You don’t really know each other, do you? If you get to the stage of considering a marital union, the Hierophant is strongly suggesting that you learn a few things about each other, if not about yourselves too. Stick to convention and do not go off the wire in your decisions and dealings with each other. The success and victory of the Six of Wands should not throw both of you off guard. You DO need to learn more about each other.

THE END RESULT: The Fool.
Well, what can I say? New beginnings, new venture, starting afresh, whilst taking a risk or two in the process. The Hierophants warning or advice that there is some learning to be done before you take any further steps in this association of yours, is quite important. It may grant you the chance to start afresh TOGETHER or may just let you see the light and throw you on a different path for YOU alone to start a new journey. I am usually quite welcoming of the Fool as a new beginning, but there are some variables as mentioned above which will be the deciding factor if this new start is for you or for both of you together.

I hope this reading has meant something for you my dear friend and please do let me know how it resonates with your current situation.

All the best to you and may you continue building your own personal strength for the way forward.

Hugs.
Cedars

Hi Cedars

Thank you so much for taking the time and care to give me such a detailed reading. I would be delighted to give you feedback.

In terms of how I should play it and the strength I have you are spot on. I've seen him a couple of times recently and I feel very strong and powerful in his company - my only challege might be to stop myself from being "too" distant! And the great thing is even though I have had feelings for him for a long time I don't feel desperate for him. He knows where I am if he wants me.

From the cards that you have picked out they are all correct. Esp Judegment - whether he sees me this way I would defintely say I have had a rebirth in my attitudes and outlook to life.

The Devil - spot on for him!! The physical pleasures you describe I think refer to his love of all things designer - the label clothes, the big name car, going to the best restaurants etc. I have no problem with these things at all but I have looked at him and thought that his life is driven by the need for these sort of items. I would also include his last girlfriend in this who he himself described as an "IT" girl. I think over the last couple of years he has had to learn what his real values in life are and how to lead a life in line with these.

Queen of Cups - the intoxication you describe reminds of when I first met him and I was literally in toxicated by him. That is no longer there thankfully and I have clarity. As far as I am aware drugs have never been an issue for him and def not me.

Six of wands - I probably am a challenge to him but I don't think in a conquering me sense. I think he would say I am a mystery and knows that I would not be easily won over by a few presents and glib words.

Hierophant - def need to learn a lot more about each other!

The Fool - I shall look forwards to this whatever shape it comes in!!

I very rarely post on here but I do dip in and out so have read alot of readings you have given to others. Your readings are always very compassionate, caring and very detailed - its obvious you take a lot of time over them. I would like to say thank you again for the time you have taken with myself and I'll keep you posted if things move on!!

Love

Red

Bless you my dear Red and thank you for your swift and informative feedback.

I felt what you described about yourself and him through the cards and before I laid the cards down. Glad you confirmed what I sensed.

If he knows your strength by now (I do feel he does) then you have nothing to lose. Give as much as you feel is necessary for you to give and when you see more coming from his side, give a little bit more. Always make sure you get in return. Unfortunately, in relationships, we dont all give/receive  the same proportion.  That is how things are with certain people, but does not necessarily mean there are no feelings.

I feel from my previous reading to you you come a a long way. Isnt age a beautiful thing whereby it makes us stronger and more mature for our own good?

I feel you will be all right and look after yourself.

Warm hugs to you my dear friend.

Bless you!
Cedars

Red,

Just to clarify, I used the phrase 'addicted to drugs' metaphorically and did not mean in any way that you were on drugs.

I meant to say... the situation with you two must have felt almost like someone who is 'drugged' >> metaphorically speaking.


Just wished to clarify what I meant in my reading.

Cheers
Cedars