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Payewacker's Tarot - General discussions on Beth
Payewacker


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Hi Pirbid.

Beth

The Link to the Published Doc

http://docs.google.com/View?id=dgtkr639_159cr747nj2

Blessed be


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Hi Guys,

Well, I thought we need to at least see what we are talking about, so I also brought the description on Beth into this posting;

BETH

Beth (2), can be seen as the primary seperator, or container or physical support. It can be seen as the division between that which is contained and that wich is not. In Beth we move into the material, wherby it is the primary act of conciousness, recognising itself. In the Biological process we see it as Abstract Cell energy. We see a clear contrast between Aleph (infinite, unknownable) and Beth. In thinking about Beth, we create Beths of thought, the logical place where we realize Aleph. Beth can be seen as a roadsign, but we cannot think arbitrarily, with these signs pointing to the material world. Our minds should think non-arbitrary, and in Semantic generalities.

“Beth is not any of our Beths about Beth, such as container, matter, duality, separation, division. It is the Beth-ness of all those specific qualifications, across the entire range of structuration of matter and consciousness. Similarly, as we encounter each letter, Ghimel is not our Beth of Ghimel, but a sign for a completely generalized abstract organizational principle underlying all our Beths of motion, movement, change, interchange and relationship. In fact, Ghimmel is not in our Beths at all, but rather in the movement of our Beths animated by Aleph, of which we have no Beth (thought) at all.”

Having a new way of thinking, we learned to “Beth” in the most or broader spectrum of structure as opposed to specific objects.

Arbitrariness :
The absence of any degree of necessity between the signified and signifier of a sign. Makes the sign symbolic. For example, in English we say "bachelor" to refer to an unmarried man, but since we might just as well say "foobar", therefore "bachelor" is a symbol.
     Principia Cybernetica: Semiotic Terms: Arbitrariness

In Hebrew, both Beth the letter and Beth the word, both spelled Beth-Yod-Tav, mean house. Beth, in formative semantics (a phrase for our non-arbitrary language) means an abstract, generalized container, the "houseness" of house. Beth is the container for the uncontainable, Aleph; in its most generalized sense it is Beth-El (Bethel), the Beth of Aleph, or the "house" of Aleph-Lammed, "God:" Beth-Yod-Tav -- Aleph-Lammed-(Phay).

Each letter of the Hebrew alphabet, in addition to signifying a basic creative energy or fundamental power, is itself spelled by the letters of the same alphabet of basic energies. This means that the letters are self-defining and self-signifying when their basic (generalized) meanings are understood. Each letter has an inner structure of its own and in half the cases, a role in the spelling and meaning of the other letters.

It is a trivial task to assign abstract meaning to twenty-two letters. It is much more difficult to spell those letters with meanings from the other letters in a consistent and coherent way, and account for their positions in a logical array of meaning. If the initial meanings are arbitrary, the system will fail as a language.

“Beth (2): Everything that exists is the conditioning of life and the life of the conditioning. Everything that is exists both internally and externally. Each germ of life has an envelope, which derives its movement from the great cosmic force of resistance to the life which is surging up from within (If the shell does not offer the right measure of resistance, the chicken will not hatch.) This whole duality of existence -- and of our own thought -- is conveyed by no. 2.

   Suares, The Cipher of Genesis, p.65”

Ok, yes we will all say "Whaaaat" , but there is a simple strain in which we need to "formalise our thinking"

I will do another posting after this one, in order to start a comprehendable discussion, which will give you the needed vision to recognize the abstract from the arbitrary!

Blessed be
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OK,

Let's see how I'm going to do this!

When we look at Aleph, we consider it to be the "first spark". This is to say, that Aleph is a energy, which has only begun it's journey. It's not defined, nor contained, it can go helter scelter or we can direct it, in a sensible direction as a productive force in any application.

To actually see how this works, is to look at the biological process, which defines the development of Aleph in a more practical way.

Looking at a seed, it will lay dormant for a period of time, until the right environmental conditions develop to allow it to germinate.

We can also look at the very basic cell-structure to explain the movement or development. Biologically the cell is an organic struture, but it exist with or by inorganic compound. This is energy. Proton, neurons, etc. Everything around us is based on this principle.

In Aleph, we find the energy, in Beth we find the "container". The cell wall. Therefore, to contain energy in whichever form is to Beth, Aleph into the material world with an non arbitrary view.

Beth cannot be defined as an exact structure! For when we are Beth-ing, we are developing another Beth on it's own.    . Consider, as we plant the seed, we are Beth-ing the "probability" of the green bean going to deliver a harvest. In that, we are estimating what may happen. We are now considering (thought)-Beth, of the entire growing process (Beth-ing - Beth).

This is exactly why we cannot consider each letter on it's own, but we can describe a development in a box of it's own! This is where we see how important it is to alter our thinking, but remembering the archetypal structures that exist as well as the non-arbitrary formation of the Hebrew Alphabet in itself.

What we are looking at, is the thought process in Beth and the continuing thought peocesses that will develop as the result of the first Beth, and our Beth-ing(continuing thought processes on the first thought), into three, four etc.

Here we see that the first cell structure is the cell wall, which is organic, but containing inorganic particles-(Energy-Aleph).

This is the bringing together or dividing of certain elements and thought patterns. We can also see it as a separation between what we perceive, and what is the norm. Another way to look at it--We can decide, which we want to keep and what we want to get rid of?

The dualities in the two's does not necessarily point to a bringing together, but also a "sifting", separating, keeping the good, gone with evil. A decision and the process of bringing it to our normal daily lives.

We are now starting to direct the energies in our lives to conform to our standards, be it Mundane or Spiritual. Each of us, has a defined thought process, and this is what we apply to consider our continuation, be it good or bad. Our thoughts influence the energy and it's direction we want to apply in our lives.

This is then where we start "moving" into the three's as a result of our Beths. We are now looking at cycles, each full circle has to have Aleph, Beth, etc, to result in attainment - Yod.

Therefore, for all practical purposes, we have now, reigned in or tamed the energies in our lives, contained it, and applied it in any way we may think fit, taking us to Gimmel as the result of our first thought and it's movement.

Blessed be.
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