Hello PW,

Quite deep and intense stuff there my friend. The topics you have covered need deeper contemplation and further reading.

However, I have some work, mainly on the Major Arcana, and here are my results.

Where do we find shapes as described above?”

1. The chest of the Temperance with a triangle in the middle.
2. A white quadrangle on the lowest white bit of the Hierophants robe.
3. A square on the charioteer’s chest on The Chariot.
4. I wonder if the clear-cut squares or rectangular coffins on the Judgement have any bearing.
5. There are some symbols on the Magician’s table (three of them) but I cannot decipher what they are.
6. A square on the Justice’s tunic. Is that a pin or does it have any symbolic significance?
7. On the towers of the Moon, a square each. Windows??
8. On the Wheel of Fortune, inside the circle various shapes of triangles and so on.

Have I missed much?

For those who didn't follow this thread, go to page 10, where you will find the links to the subjects discussed!


Hi Cedars,

I just acn't understand clearly how it is that "aspiring" Tarot readers, don't have an interest in learning how things fit toghether. Sometimes, yes, we get to levels where they loose themselves in a maze of symbolism, or don't comcern themselves with the true influences, as shown in the cards and joined by these symbols.

As u know, we are always learning, I wonder how these "readers" can ever think that they have reached the point of "total enlightenment"

Blessed be

Payewacker,

The more I read about the tarot and its symbolism and the pictorial meanings, the more I am fascinated AND learning and learning and learning.  There have been instances when a certain card which in its book meaning was one thing and in a spread brought about something completely different. That can only be learnt by reading, practising and having the desire to learn.

You have gone through lenghts in passing on your knowledge in the history and symbolism of tarot, which, I admit, can be daunting sometimes, but to read and find out even a certain % of its content is a gift worth celebrating. Thank you so far for all your contributions and please do not be deterred from passing on further topics to the boards due to the lack of response.

In fact, I have prepared a layout of the Celtic Cross spread based on inputs from you and from my own studies and, both together, bring about a much better understanding of the spread.  

I was reading The Hermitage tarot site over the weekend and came across some invaluable information about the origins of the tarot and so many other useful topics that are covered there.

As to why our friends in here do not partake in the "How much do you want to learn?" please do not be discouraged. I am sure and I hope they are reading and wish sometimes they would air their opinions. We have a lot to learn from each other.
We all have something to give.

I must say I follow your post...and I like what I read...and I learn.

BUT the fact is that I am not that good in Tarot, and "my headache" prevent me to keep focus to long.....so it is not because I don't find the discussion of interest I don't attend

I just go around preaching my "Free Will", but I am at the same time very glad for the work you all do...and I respect it...so please go on...and for those who want to attend...do so....but please no readings request in this thread

Thank you Rhuto and thanks for your continued support.