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Who to believe?
Iokasti


Age: 31
Zodiac:
Taurus



Joined: 13 Nov 2010
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Location: Stockholm
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My readings or my friend's readings?

I am a beginner and she is a beginner. Though she's always one of the people that think they always have right. I got some tarot readings from her today and then I got home, set the same questions and got completely opposite results. I'm confused and I have no idea who is biased most of us, how the cards actually work...
But one thing is certain, that this is not an "interpretation" difference. For the same question about me she had the card Four of Swords whereas I got Two of Cups.

She looks so forward to saying to me "See, I had right" that I'm almost tempted to pay a visit to a proffesional Tarot reader that she pais much respect for and double check the same questions...But maybe a bit idiotic to do this? I seriously don't like being affected and confused in this way :(
Rhutobello


Age: 68
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Virgo



Joined: 16 Jun 2006
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The answer is simple.....both of you might be right....or none of you might be right....the clue holder is the one who has been read....who must fulfil any reading...by either work toward it.....or work away from it.

Tarot or any "Reading tool" are not 9 o'clock news....it show possibilities...but it can never give anything..solve anything...take away anything...without the seekers own doing.

Tarot is in the hands of a newcomer a "strange tool" witch predict a havoc...by infidelity ...loss of money....breakup and so on........IT IS NOT THAT SIMPLE.

What one must do is to learn the basic first.....one way to do it is to write all the clue words on the back of each card...then when you put it down with front up.....you might see if you are right about the clues.

Clues must bee seen in regard to the question asked...and in order to give a good answer, one must have life experiences, one must have the ability to connect....and to evaluate.

Let say you get the clue word.."Death"

Death can be a lot of thing....it can be that an idea should be put away....it can be that the path taken leads to a dead-end...it can be that if you go on you might see the death of a friendship....well you can use your own imagination on it....but if you see my statements then they all start with """It can be"  "IF YOU GO ON"....it is the seeker who must fulfil the reading.

When we receive a reading...then we saw an idea in our mind....and our unconscious mind will try to work toward it if it is of value to us...this is the way we fulfil a Reading.

As for Readings of the past.....the more vague the reading is...the more will the seeker fit it into her/his life.....the more detailed the Reading is...the more difficult will it be for the seeker to fit it into  his/her life.

So have this in mind...ONLY YOU are in control of your life....NO MATTER what any Reading Tells you.....so the only Person who can tell if a Reading is Good or Not...is the SEEKER.......by his/her own action
Iokasti


Age: 31
Zodiac:
Taurus



Joined: 13 Nov 2010
Posts: 6
Location: Stockholm
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Hi Rhutobello,

Manyt thanks for your fantastic post. I moste certailny understand what you write and I think I also had started having this feeling about the Tarot cards. Correct me if I'm wrong...but they are simply NOT destiny cards. Have I understood correctly? Cause if they were then no matter what the seeker does the outcome will be the same.

This is the difference betwee my and my friend's way of reading. She's insisting that whatever I do this is how it will be. And the reason I'm confused is because she's like that as a person, very confident about herself and what she knows. And since I'm a beginner I can easily become lost on how to interpret Readings.

I understand then that if the clue holder is the seeker, then how can a "professional Tarot Reader" tell me about my life better than I can when reading the cards?
And why many people think that one should never read the cards for themselves? Is it because of biased thoughts and feelings? In that case, maybe I should not trust "friends" because who knows what they wish for when it comes to me.
Rhutobello


Age: 68
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Since we all create our life as we go....nothing in the future can be firm, other then death.

Each day we take many decisions which change our path, and with more then 6 billion people, and each and one of them would change 1 thing, then that would be enough to change any laid outcome...because the impact of each one is like a stone in water, it goes outwards.

We are depending on machines.....we are influenced by peace and war..we are influenced by our own and the global economy....we are influenced on where we are born, which government there is...there is so many thing that influence each and one of us....so when people say you can't avoid a Reading...then I say CRAP!

You as person is responsible for your actions....if there was something above that we could never avoid (except death) then we could not be responsible for our actions....because who can tell when this firm laid action take place...and not our own will?

Of course, there is big difference in people....and so also in Readers.

Some are able to connect much better to the seeker then other.
Some are much better to word their readings, then other.
Some can evaluate what is told, and from that draw a possible solution that will come if the path is followed.

and so can it go on and on....I have found something on the net that might explain some of it;

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selective thinking

Selective thinking is the process whereby one selects out favorable evidence for remembrance and focus, while ignoring unfavorable evidence for a belief. This kind of thinking is the basis for most beliefs in the psychic powers of so-called mind readers and mediums. It is also the basis for many, if not most, occult and pseudoscientific beliefs.

It should be noted that selective thinking works independently of wishful thinking and should not be confused with biased thinking, whereby one seriously considers data contrary to one's belief, but one is much more critical of such data than one is of supportive data.

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So always carry in mind that YOU are the most important Person in YOUR life.....YOU might fulfil a Reading....YOU might avoid a Reading....it is your own action that count in the end.....not what cards is put down....Use the card good....use them to improve your life....by  evaluating any "Spread together with the Question"......then you acheive one GREAT benefit.....THE THINKING....to see possible paths, BUT to avoid firm Conclusions !  

Good luck.
Payewacker


Age: 48
Zodiac:
Leo



Joined: 07 Aug 2007
Posts: 1260

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Hi Iokasti,

What Rhuto said is totally the way you should consider Psychic things to work, unpredictable, confusing and outright at times not to be trusted!

I have a friend, although now many kilometers away, thank God! She lived two houses from me, and I found out only later that she does Tarot. She also didn't know I do Tarot.

It ended up a hastle to go to their house, I was actually more friends with her husband--almost a brothership! Anyway, she would get me there and ask me to "read" on a number of issues, sometimes having to do ten or more spreads. (She was still learning).

BUT.......

She would have all her own books beside her and as I read and interpret she would disagree and "think" it might be sus or so! That truly pissed me off, and one day when she asked again, I said I stopped reading Tarot.

The lesson on this is simple;
1) Don't let a friend read for you, they are biased as they know you to well, Don't read for a close friend, as you may be biased and know them too well!
2) Reading for yourself is not to be trusted at all (my opinion)! You will see what you want to see and ignore the rest. Although later you will see, the cards were right, but your eyes were closed! WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE!!!!

As Rhuto said, learn the Tarot, don't compare notes with your friend, it's a private "thing" and you will read a different way than she does. So, you will always walk away confused! If she says she knows, let her go to some of my posts "What you want to learn about Tarot" and the forum "Tarot discussions and ideas". I have only scratched the surface and are continuously learning, so are we all only students.

Now you ask, "Who to believe?" my answer-- Who do you want to believe?

Please, stay an active member on MB, follow our discussions, get involved, and surely you will enjoy a world you though was "mystic" and for the few.

Blessed be.
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