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Posts: 1260 · Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:11 am

cedars wrote:

I, personally, always shuffle the cards upright. Some people make a mess of the cards face down on the floor and they just create havoc and then gather the cards...

Renjer, there are no rules my friend. Make your own rule. The cards will still come out to give the message that the querent is meant to receive. Do not complicate your mind with rituals such as shuffling upside down, downside up, inside out...... these are all unnecessary.

Hi, I'm one of the havoc creators, but not on the floor. Some may also create the havoc, but then turn the cards upright, as Cedars said, no rules, follow your intuition.

The card that crosses the querant is to be drawn, opened from left to right, now the side closest to you, is the bottom of the card, say the top of the card is to the left, it would be upright, if to the right, reversed. Now you will ask how to turn it sideways, always from left to right.

You keep on refering to the "shortened" CC. This spread is ten cards, as it describes a road travelled from Aleph to Yod, in other words itgives you the Archytepal circumstances. From 10 upward, you find the excistential and then the cosmic. By no means do I critisize other authors, they have a different view on a certain topic. But, do go to Tarot Topics and work throuh the numbers as well. The placement and the number of the card has as much significance as the face of the card or it's interpritation.

Blessed Be

Posts: 50 · Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:36 am

The shortened CC came from the book, Tarot Get the Whole Story by James Ricklef. At least the shortened version makes it easier on me when I am interpreting.
Anyway I think I would use the full CC from now on.

The querent thinks I did well, so I guess my method worked, though I think a full CC would be more helpful.

I will try turning over the cards left to right with my next reading. All this time I was doing bottom to top.

Posts: 1260 · Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:09 am

Hi Renjer,

James Ricklef actually specialises in 3 card spreads, that is why you find the shortened version. However, don't discount three cards spreads, you will see through his book how he indicates where movement starts and ends! This you can see in the way the people look or move on the cards. That is also why I don't use any other deck, but that of A E Waite.

The way in which you have been working with your cards was imprinted on your mind, so no matter, it would still have given advice.

I'm going to start shortly with the other numbers, and their significance, just keep checking. I also edit the Celtic Cross main template as I do a new number. These you are welcome to copy.

Blessed be.