Payewacker's Tarot - How much do you want to learn?, Mysticism, reading, forums, Numerology, Sun Signs, Divination

Posts: 1257 · Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:59 pm

Hi Guys,

You know,i,ve been reading Tarot for a long time or let's say, long enough!!
I'm under no circumstances above professionality, nor totally tutored!!

My question to you? Are you so tutored not to get involved in discussions about Tarot? To me, Tarot is an absolute passion, and I would like to know everything and learn as much is possible!!

Each and every day we learn, life teaches us lessons, not only how to live, but how to help people when they are in dire straits. We are a community which is absolutely essential to most people, have you evr thought of it that way? Have you ever thought that we may be that glimmer of hope some people are looking for, or are you just going to sit back and dispose of your oppinions only?

Yes, many times some individual may ask a question none of us even want to consider, but then, be the pshyciatrist and show this person the way only, to answer their own question or enlighten them to reality.

So, then why is it not possible to try and improve your knowledge by actually getting involved in discussions about Tarot. I don't even think that a lot of "Tarot readers" have ever truly investigated the true purpose of Tarot. If I step on your toes, so be it, then you should get to learn how to be a decent reader.

Let me tell you this, I never want to be known as a "Tarot reader" only, my graetest desire, is to be known as a learner, teacher and guide.

What about you??

Blessed be

Posts: 2749 · Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:01 pm

I agree with you totally Payewacker!

I always and always say that I am learning and still learning the tarot and Life itself. What a certain card may tell me today for a specific reading, may not tell me the same thing for another reading. This I found out recently with the Emperor and the Three of Pentacles. Even though these are both positive cards in their upright state, on both these occasions I got a surge of a negative feeling about these cards in two different and unrelated readings. I thought for a while if I should convey my feelings (mark the word 'feelings') and perhaps be a laughing stock of what 'the books' say about these two cards vs what my feelings said. But I went along with what I felt rather than their book meanings. I do agree, the book meanings are somewhere in the back of our minds, but sometimes when we get a strong a feeling about a certain card that may come across against the normal, accepted rules, I will still follow my feelings.

There is enormous symbolism with the tarot cards and I have tried to take notes and keep my own journal... but I see this process is a never ending one. The more I read and delve into them, the more I see thigns which I had missed before. And, I am only talking about the deck that I feel connected with so far - the Rider Waite.

I have recently started teaching a family member the tarot and I am finding this to be an immense satisfaction and yet a further learning process for myself and it is ALSO opening the doors for me to investigate more into the pictorial and symbolic meanings of the cards, especially the major Arcana.

Perhaps we could move these topics to the Tarot section rather than the Reading Forum and hoping that more and more people will partake with these discussions.

Posts: 10694 · Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:37 pm

I agree that Tarot main forum is more suited for the discussion.

I agree with you that Tarot is a life long learning process, which hopefully never end.

Many new to Tarot go in the trap to believe that those descriptions delivered by the decks author are the single truth, and by that learn it to heart.

In my opinion is it just delivered as a "thought awakening", as an area in which you shall seek in order to find answer when you get a specific card.

There is no "firm" right or "wrong", way to interpret a card, it is how the combination of question, card, and the questioner talk to you that count.

When we evaluate a question and a card, it can have several different way to be turned, which again give new, or other meanings to the interpretation.
If one "get a bit more background" on a subject, then one can see it in another light, and an interpretation that seems far out on the field might be spot on.

I think it is the combination between card and Reader that create the power of Tarot, and I think you both show that there is really magic behind it, in right hands

Posts: 2749 · Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:40 pm

Thank you Rhuto, and thanks for moving the topic to the right forum.

Cheers.

Posts: 1257 · Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:31 am

Cedars, Rhuto.

Thanks for your support and great for moving the topic, I was just not sure where exactly to post it. Cedars, I distictly remeber one of your readings where you were presented with one card and used another cards meanings and influence. This is exactly what i'm talking about!

Yes Cedars, teaching someone Tarot opens a vast new understanding about Tarot sometimes. I'm also in the fortunate position where i'm teaching a very good friend of mine, Sagie. You will see he did a reading for happi, but posted it under my name, but signed it as himself. He has not registered as yet, but will do so, probably today!! It took some convincing to get him to do the reading, he felt a bitt intimidated to post his reading.

And as Rhuto, rightfully said, we keep the meanings of the decks in mind, but do not neccesarily limit ourselves to these meanings.

The very first lesson I learned, and each and every Tarot Scholar promotes it, is for pottential readers or student to medditate on every card and then derive their own meanings or interpritations, as per the images and symbolism they are presented with.

Very few readers even consider the links between cards, which are subtle and you need to truly look for it, otherwise it's just not considered. I wonder how many readers consider the links between, Magician-High Priestess-Lovers-Chariot-Justice-Death-The Tower-Moon and The Sun. It's not only Thesis, antithesis or dualities, but also the general or consistent thread that exist, which can't be seen face on!

Therefore, in this sense, we have a idea what we can learn from this, how many others will truly get involved here and post their opinions?

Blessed be