Hi, FireRose,
It's hard to say (kind of like a Rorschach test--did I spell that right?). The first one, to me, looks like a vase on a table (for a Rose?

), but it also looks as if it could be some kind of ancient symbol for something (not that I know a damn thing about ancient symbols). The oval shape made me think of an eye, but maybe that's because I see eyes all over the place these days.
In my experience, the symbols can tend to evolve over time, and become gradually more recognizable (not all the time). Keep watching, and sharing!
Doe