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Posts: 57 · Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:13 am

It is the only thing that needs to be overcome ,to enrich growth spiritually

what are your thoughts

please no opinions on others post ,let them have there veiw

thanx

Posts: 5118 · Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:39 am

This is what Osho had to say about Ego. Posted this in Meditation and Mind Control Forum in Chapter No.38 in the Thread Titled : Meditation Chapter No.38. Read all the chapters to know what are the other things to transform from negative to positive to reach the Ultimate.

I said earlier that the same people who are very sexual are the people who experience real celibacy, because the same sexual energy is transformed and becomes celibacy for them. But when the ego disappears it does not change into something else, because in the first place it was only ignorance. There is no question of its transformation: it was only an illusion. It is as if someone in the darkness thinks that a rope is a snake, but when he gets closer he sees that it is really a rope. Then if you ask him, "What became of teh snake?" he will say, "Nothing became of the snake. There never was a snake. " There is no question that it has changed into something else.

In the same way, the ego is the result of a misunderstanding about your being. It is a deluded perception of being. To think that the ego is the being is the same as thinking that a rope is a snake. As you reach closer to your being you will find that ego does not exist. So it will not transform into anything else -- there is no question of a transformation because it simply doesn't exist. It was only an illusion which appeared to be there. Ego is ignorance, not energy -- but if there is ignorance it causes you to misuse your energies.What happens in ignorance is the misuse of your energies.

So remember, there will be no change to the ego, there will be no transformation because it simply doesn't exist. It was only an illusion which appeared to be there. Ego is ignorance, not energy -- but if there is ignorance it causes you to misuse your energies. What happens in ignorance is the misuse of your energies.

So remember, there will be no change to the ego, there will be no transformation. The ego will simply disappear. It is not an energy in that sense.

Posts: 5686 · Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 1:03 pm

The ego is a hard and fast complex in the physical/material body. It comes with the body to help motivate and direct the thinking and actions of consciousness. We are a body, mind, spirit in balance while in the material life. It is only at death the spirit separates and allows the body to die.

While the ego will die with the body, it has motivated through the balance of body, mind, spirit during the lifetime. It has allowed and even enhanced the learning process. And the lessons we needed for spirituality required it to motivate our focus and direction.

There is no part of being human that should be eliminated from our learning process. We can change and retrain any complex, but elimination means we consider it of no value to our living and loving.

Posts: 54 · Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:41 pm

The ego will always say I am right, and therefore this thread will and could go on forever, I am right about this

If I walked into a room full of crippled children then, I would say there is no room for an ego because my ego would have been replaced by emotions

Posts: 2640 · Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:34 am

I believe the ego can be released to the I Am Presence, or to Divinity. I believe that ego believes it has a certain job to take care of us and really does it's best. When we start to release ourselves in every way, in all parts of our lives to the I Am Presence/Divinity, the ego really has no job to do any more.
So releasing it to Divinity so it has opportunity to grow and become more itself, with a great deal of love and gratitude, is optimal for ego and for us.
It can take time because ego really has done the job for a long time.
I do think it is a wonderful gift to give ego.

So........ no, ego does not stop spiritual growth. It can be a part of the growth given the room, love and opportunity.