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well if you take different versions of the bible ( the book i know best) you will find many many instances where words and phrases have been changed in each new revision of it.  One of the most startling that i remember from the 70's, when i was still investigating everything religious, in the orignal writing in aramaic and the greek translation there was a story about Lilith the woman who came before Eve and was not made from Adam's rib but made in the same manner Adam was.  And yet no other translations mention this it was edited out.  Although if i remember right there was for a time mention of it in the Catholic version.  Lilith and Adam did not get along and Lilith left the garden and then God made Eve.  There were several other major changes that i found out about at a bible scholars convention in washington DC in 1978 one was an aramaic word that was used in the original aramaic text .  This word appeared 900 some odd times and in all but about 3 or 4 times it meant soft as in a cloth being soft but in the 3 or 4 other times it was translated to have a base sexual meaning which did not fit the original text  and changed the entire meaning of the passage.  There was also a passage in genesis or leviticus or maybe exodus where the abominations unto god were listed and in the original aramaic one of these was being a coward but by the King James version the word had been changed to effeminate and in the new revised edition the word effeminate was changed to homosexual.  The current version of hell was first editted into the bible in the 1300s i believe when Dante wrote his poem The Divine Comedy the first part of which was the inferno until then there was no hell the way we know it today it was the eternal separation from god that was punishment.  my memory of all these is a bit faded since after i studied the major religions i came to realize that you have to suspend rational thought to believe them.  I chose to stay rational and accept the fact that until I come to the end of physical existence there is no way for me to know whether there is a god or any existence after this physical existence.  Once I reached this conclusion life became a whole lot easier for me as i put the issue out of my mind for the most part.  It would be a total no-sequitor for me except that it is pushed at me everywhere I turn, though it doesn't cause me mental turmoil anymore.  I really don't mind that other people can suspend rational thought and believe it I just wish they would quit trying to make me and everyone else feel guilty about not believeing.  
There is a lot of good teaching and ideas in the religious books of the world but they were all written by men and have been changed throughout their history some more than others and everyone of them has at one time or another been used for exactly the opposite reasons they were created for.  From what I have seen in my life religions has been used to teach hate and intolerance as much or more than they have been used to teach love and acceptance.  Even today some Islamist use their religion to make killing and terrorism acceptable to those who believe,  some christians use the bible to preach hate and prejudice and they both do it in the name of god.  This is not to say that either or any religion is bad, just that it is like all things in this world it can be used to uphold good and evil purposes as long as people blindly believe in it.
We must not forget that we are first a human animal and have to learn how to be a civilized Human.  religion can help you learn to be human and civilized, able to live and work together or it can be used to make you hate certain groups and be unwilling to let people think and act the way they feel is right.
the one thing I have kept from religion is this:

DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE OTHERS TO DO UNTO YOU.

KEEP RELIGION OUT OF GOVERNMENT AND GOVERNMENT OUT OF OUR PERSONAL LIVES!
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Thank you! Yes, you have made some valid points about what is being done by the followers of God. So let me address this first by way of a question. Have you ever told lies? If I murder someone does that make me a murderer? If you have lied that makes you a liar. Right? I can see a guy in prison for murder talking to another convict about another inmate being snitch, or the baby raper and what low lives they are. Darkness is heavy my friend. As for the things you can remember, I'm sure that those who have their own personal agenda will find what their looking for even if it means a little tweaking.
I do respect anyone who does an un bias study. Thanks again!





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