[quote="stan"][b]SPIRITUALY SPEAKING, CAN DESPAIR BE VEIWED AS GOOD?[/b][/quote]

For some human beings, only if it is in another!

Like the therapist that gains from it! Or the priest whose raison d'etre is tied to confessions...!

;-)

So true unfortunately. Can we see that through the despair, comes surrender and through the surrender, the seeker comes closer to God? And in that way, God's power works best in those who are weak? Can we say that?

[quote="stan"][quote="rohiniranjan"][quote="stan"][b]SPIRITUALY SPEAKING, CAN DESPAIR BE VEIWED AS GOOD?[/b][/quote]

For some human beings, only if it is in another!

Like the therapist that gains from it! Or the priest whose raison d'etre is tied to confessions...!

;-)[/quote]


So true unfortunately. Can we see that through the despair, comes surrender and through the surrender, the seeker comes closer to God? And in that way, God's power works best in those who are weak? Can we say that?[/quote]

STAN: The wise come to surrender before despair overcomes them!

Take it or leave it!!

RR

We know not how to surrender. I may will to be more conscious of God but my willing is more unconsciousness. Is this not so?