Plato infers that GOD is an inactive GOD. Do you agree, or disagree?

stan;

It is the climax of ignorance to think that the spiritual knowledge is unrelated to the present worldly affairs. People think that the spiritual knowledge is always related to the upper world only and this shows their ignorance. The Lord is simultaneous ruler of this world as well as the upper world. The Lord can grant any materialistic boon in this world and also can give simultaneously the protection in the upper world. The Lord is also involved in the social problems of this world because He is ultimately governing this society also. There is His government underlying in the present human government as the foundation. The present human government is like the castle seen above the ground. But the government of the Lord is like the hidden foundation present inside the ground. Jesus always referred this government of the Lord.

The absence of realization of the existence of this underlying invisible divine government of the Lord, which was preached by Jesus again and again as kingdom of heaven is responsible for all the present burning problems at the individual level as well as at the gross level of the society. The human government is neglecting to propagate the awareness regarding the existence of this divine government. In fact the divine government also rules the human government. Perhaps the human government is feeling about the loss of its prestige by propagating the presence of this ultimate divine government. The awareness of the concept of this ultimate government of the Lord can be propagated through education at the primary level. But the government especially in India feels shy to introduce the spiritual knowledge in the education due to the so-called secularism. Secularism really means that the same medicine is present in every cup and you can take the medicine present in all the cups with equal liking.

Secularism also means that you can take the medicine from any cup and respect other cups with equality. But the present secularism has ended in a horrible sense by which the medicine is not taken at all from a single cup or all cups. Such sense is misunderstood or misinterpreted secularism. Mahatma Gandhi prayed Eeshwara and Allah equally and that is the real secularism.

I agree. We must suffer it as so, but one must not be the sufferer.

stan;

It is the duty of the human government to propagate the spiritual knowledge in the public starting from a child, which alone can control the sins like robbing the money of others, corruption, nepotism etc. The blind liking for family members, relatives, caste, religion, sex, and nationality are responsible for various present social problems. The blind love to the family members is responsible for stealing the wealth of others and corruption. The blind love for the relatives is responsible for the nepotism. The blind love for the caste and sex is responsible for electing the undeserving people into the government. The blind love for religion is responsible for criticizing the other religions and sometimes killing the people of other religions in mass. The blind love for the nation is responsible for the wars in the National boundaries. If one realizes the spiritual knowledge and finds that all the living beings are like brothers and sisters only and that one God alone is the divine father and that all this Earth is one nation under the rule of the God, all these problems vanish. Krishna was just witnessing the mutual killing of his relatives in which even his sons and grandsons were killed. He protected the Pandavas from the brutal killing by Asvatthama though they were not his sons and grandsons. His protection was based on their merit. He made the son of Sandeepani alive though he was not of His caste. He did not give life to Abhimanyu who was his own nephew. He gave immense wealth to Sudama who is not related to Him and does not belong to His caste. He took away all the wealth and killed Duryodhana though he was his relative. The favour of the Lord was based on merit and the punishment was based on the crime only. All the above bonds were unreal and dramatic in His eyes

I repeat again and again that the government should take all the efforts to propagate the spiritual knowledge at every level and in every corner. Any activity in the public office should be done in the divine atmosphere. All the places of public activities must be converted into temples. If secularism is followed, let the temples have statues of all religions. Every citizen should feel that the omnipresent and omnipotent Lord watches his or her activity. If funds are required to propagate such spiritual knowledge, let the funds of the temples be used for such propagation. The temple funds should be spent for such purpose to bring the constant awareness of the Lord and His all-pervading power that controls each and every activity of the creation. Such programs can be done only under the headship of the religious saints who are well aware of the spiritual knowledge. The officials of the government cannot effectively do such program unless they are well-versed scholars of spiritual knowledge (Jnaninah tattvadarsinah--- Gita) (Brahmanah sammarsimah---Veda). The government officials without any spiritual knowledge will use the funds for public facilities, which should be done only by the revenue collected. The money of God should be spent only for bringing the awareness of God and His rule everywhere. The funds are meant for the propagation of spiritual knowledge and devotion. Any misuse for other than this divine purpose is the greatest sin and the Lord will punish the government. Religious priests manage the funds of the Vatican church and the government is not putting its finger in it. They are managed for propagating the spiritual knowledge and devotion. By this the Lord is pleased and the western countries are blessed with all comforts. India should learn this aspect from the west.

When the government is forgetting its duty to propagate the spiritual knowledge and devotion, the responsibility false finally on the underline ultimate government for which the Lord is the head. Therefore the Lord comes down in human form to propagate this spiritual knowledge and devotion. The Lord also collects some tax from you for His mission. He has already given some facilities like human birth, longevity, health, wealth etc. The human government is collecting the tax without caring for your problems. But the Lord asks for the tax from all of you, which is the time, energy or work and money, which you are wasting in illusory entertainments. You can do the sacrifice of your work (karma sanyasa) or sacrifice of fruit of work (karma phalatyaga) or both according to your convenience. The liberated souls sacrifice fully, which is impossible for all and such liberated souls are blessed by the Lord to be His constant associates, which is the permanent result. The former case is Pravrutti and the latter case is Nivrutti. One should keep Nivrutti as ultimate aim. Pravrutti is like scoring the pass mark in the examination. Nivrutti is like achieving the rare gold medal from the university. The teacher who aims that all the students should at least pass should not advice the pass marks as the goal. He will advise the achievement of the gold medal as the goal of every student. Lord Krishna was such excellent teacher who taught about Nivrutti only throughout Gita. In the beginning of the Gita Lord Krishna stated that he came to establish justice or Pravrutti on this earth (Dharma samstapanarthaya—Gita). This is like a teacher stating that his aim is to see that all the students in his section should pass the examination. In that case the teacher should stress on the pass and similarly Krishna should have stressed on the path of justice. Had Krishna done this, Gita should have become another scripture of ethics like Manu Smruti containing all the rules of justice like a legal constitution. But Krishna emphasised on the path of salvation from the worldly bonds and devotion to the Lord (Nivrutti) for achieving the establishment of justice (Pravrutti).

The teacher is fixing the achievement of gold medal to every student so that every student by putting such hectic effort will at least pass. If you put pass mark as the goal, then every student puts least effort and may fail. If the destruction of bonds is put as the goal at least the bonds will become weak. This is the excellent tactic of Lord Krishna in putting the higher goal to achieve the lower goal. In Bible, Jesus also adopted this tactic and He desired that His dearest disciple should hate the family bonds including the bond with his life. Hating means that one should see his family members as his enemies. When such extreme goal is fixed at least the blind attraction in the family bonds is reduced. In fact these family members were really your enemies in your previous birth. Since you have robbed their wealth, they have come to you to get back their money with interest. This principle of justice is forcing you to earn the money and by such force, you are doing the sins and get punished. When you rob the wealth of somebody by force, you have to not only pay it with interest but also should be punished. Thus your blind love on your family members is responsible for your sins and the consequent punishment.

Mohammed does not mention Nivrutti in his scripture because He claimed himself as messenger of God only. Nivrutti means loving and serving the Lord in person. For that God in human form is essential. But Islam believes only formless God and therefore it is not possible to love and serve the God directly. Therefore the path of Nivrutti has no place in Islam. Pravrutti itself pleases the Lord and such pleasing the Lord is ultimate in Islam. In Hinduism, Christianity and Islam the ultimate enquiry and the punishment of sinner in the hell are common aspects. Gita introduces the teacher and fixes the gold medal as the ultimate goal for achieving at least a total pass. Bible mentions the existence of teacher in the class and explains both the goals (passing and gold medal) separately. Quran also introduces the teacher to the class but shows the single goal of passing the examination. The scripture of Buddhism does not introduce the teacher and emphasizes on passing the examination and to pass the examination by self-reading. But the Buddhists must realize that the teacher is Buddha Himself, since they surrender to Buddha (‘Buddham sharanam”). The scripture of Jainism is similar to the scripture of Buddhism but the Jains should know that the teacher is Mahavir Jain Himself. The Jains also salute the liberated souls who are the top devotees. God pervades all over the human body in the case of Human Incarnation. But God dwells in the hearts of top devotees also and thus salutations to liberated souls are salutations to the Lord. All these are Human Incarnations and are represented by the word Teacher here.

I understand the ritual and the spiritual significance of greeting and bending and clasping of hands, and what each represents. You honor that which is in all life, God the Spirit and I would dishonor myself to bow to anyone. Should I bow to that which I am? Should I pray and beget sin? Jesus said, if thy eye be single thy whole body shall be fool of Light but if thy eye be divided how great the darkness. For me to think you are the Teacher and Im the disciple, is in truth Maya. One who has attained to the Godhead doesn't even realize that he is a teacher, or read someone's mind, or foretold the future. If I bite my finger I'm eating my teacher alive! The world is perfect as is. Once you know, you would'nt change anything even if you had all the power!