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Troubles are Sins of previous birth or Will of Lord?
dattaswami


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Troubles are Sins of previous birth or Will of Lord?

People say that it is the sin of the previous birth whenever they are in the trouble. They pose as if they are very pure in this life from their birth. When a person dies immediately his sons write letters to others that their father has gone to heaven. Actually after death, the soul will be enquired in the ‘Pretaloka’ for ten days and then only he will be sent to hell for his bad deeds and to heaven for the good deeds and to ‘Pitruloka’ for mixed deeds. If the soul has straightly gone to heaven, why his sons are donating cow (Godana), which is meant for crossing the Vaitarini River, which is before the hell? Infact the soul is not enjoying the results of the previous deeds.

When the soul leaves this body, it goes to hell and is washed severely like a cloth. The entire dirt goes but a little dirt remains in the soul, which is called as Karma Sesha. The Karma Sesha means again all the qualities of the soul with least intensity. When the soul comes back to this world these qualities are again grown in this atmosphere of earth. The soul again goes to hell for severe wash. Like this the cycle repeats. When the soul comes to this earth from the hell, it does works according to the Karma Sesha only i.e., the previous qualities. In that sense the Karma Sesha is responsible for all the works on this earth. These works again intensify the Karma Sesha. Buddhi (Karma Sesha) produces Karma (action) and Karma intensifies the Buddhi. When the soul comes here there is no result to be enjoyed in this world.

A thief was severely beaten in the police station and was left. When the thief comes out of the police station his quality to steal is very very weak. But within a short time due to the association of the other thieves in the world he becomes the original thief and is again beaten in the police station. Therefore when the thief comes out of the police station there is no punishment that remains with him. Similarly when the soul is born there is no punishment that remains with the soul. The only thing that remains with the soul is the Karma Sesha, which is a very weak quality to steal. This Karma Sesha is called Sanchita and is also called as the writing of Brahma on the forehead. This guides the future action of the soul in this world. The birth of the soul is according to the nature of this Karma Sesha only, which is called Prarabdha. The actions in this world produce strength to the Karma Sesha and such strength is called Aagami. All this is related to the souls and the world, which is based on the ignorance and the blind attraction of the family bonds. The Lord has nothing to do with this.

The work of the Lord is completely different. The Lord enters this world to uplift the human beings. Such divine work of the Lord is to be recognized and your participation in such work will be related to the Lord. Such participation will give you the Brahma Loka in a completely different divine path called Archiraadi Maarga as told in Gita. For such participation you must first recognize the birth of the Lord in human form. If you do not recognize the Lord in the human form there is no question of participation in His work. Gita says that first the divine birth of the Lord must be recognized and then the divine work for participation (Janma Karmachame Divyam). Except this type of divine work the Lord has no connection with the other deeds of souls as said in Gita (Na Kartrutvam Na Karmaani Lokasya). Thus one should not mix the works of the souls and the work of the Lord.
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well..it's just a theory of a religion..
(or just dattaswami's own theory?well..i don't know)
dattaswami


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wicked_witch wrote:
well..it's just a theory of a religion..
(or just dattaswami's own theory?well..i don't know)


A person did some bad deed (paapa karma or vikarma). The person went to hell and was punished there. The punishment reduced the intensity of quality (guna or samskara) which is the cause of that deed. But the quality is not completely removed and a small trace of it remains. Punishment cannot remove the quality which is a form of wrong knowledge. The wrong knowledge can be completely removed only by right knowledge and not by external physical punishment. Of course the punishment reduces the intensity of wrong knowledge to a great extent. A thief can leave his quality of stealing only on realization obtained by the right knowledge. Any extent of torture cannot remove this quality completely. Therefore, even when the thief comes out of the police station, a trace of the quality of stealing remains.

But if he meets a Satguru and receives right knowledge, the quality can be removed completely. Valmiki, a robber, became a sage by the preaching of Narada but not by the third degree treatment in a police station. The samskara or quality is knowledge and can be destroyed by another type of knowledge only, as a diamond is cut by another diamond. Except the knowledge, no other physical works like chanting the name, doing worship, singing songs or any other physical exercise can remove the wrong knowledge which is the cause of sins.

Now what is this wrong knowledge? Is it not karma? As I told you the knowledge is also karma because any part of the creation is karma only. Quality or samskara is a process of feeling or thinking of awareness which is karma only. But the karma of awareness can be removed by another karma of awareness only and not by the karma of matter or inert energy. Beating and burning are the works done by inert matter and inert energy. They can affect the body and since the body is connected to mind, it can create fear and reduce the intensity of the wrong knowledge but cannot remove it from the root. Only the logical analysis of right knowledge can remove this samskara or quality from the root.

When the quality is removed, it’s corresponding deed also disappears. Therefore the right knowledge removes the cause of the karma and thus burn the quality and its deed from the root (Jnanagnih Sarva karmani-the Gita). When the sinner comes to the earth from the hell he is with the trace of quality. Since the quality is also basically karma, the trace of quality is called as karma sesha (remains of karma). This trace of quality grows in a congenial atmosphere into a big tree and the deed is again repeated. The punishment of this deed may be in the hell or sometimes may be immediate. Sometimes the thief may be caught by the house owner on the spot and may be beaten immediately. Sometimes the thief may be caught in the police station and may be beaten there. Even if he escapes these two places he will certainly be beaten in the hell.

Therefore the deed of the previous birth punished in the hell comes down along with the soul as karma sesha (quality or samskara) which is responsible for the corresponding deed on this earth and which may yield its fruit here itself. In such case his previous quality called as previous karma is certainly responsible for the misery here. Here you have to understand one point. The karma of the previous birth is not giving its result directly in this birth. The samskara which was responsible to the karma of the previous birth continues into this birth as a trace, which grows in a congenial atmosphere and generates its corresponding karma once again, which may yield sometimes its fruit here itself. Thus the karma of the present birth is only responsible directly for your misery here and the present karma has its root in the samskara of previous birth. This samskara can be called as karma and thus in that sense it is said that the karma of the previous birth is responsible for the present misery.
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