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Miracles cannot satisfy atheists, who are always ready with alternative interpretations.
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Miracles cannot satisfy atheists, who are always ready with alternative interpretations.

Smt.Shrutakirti ( Hyderabad ) revealed her Divine experience like this; “On 24-12-2006 I slept with some worry and I got a divine dream in which swami walked into my house. He was radiating bright light of thousand Suns. Every footprint of Him was shining with pure golden color. Swami consoled me and preached the Divine knowledge. At the end Swami told that He is giving a proof for the reality of his entrance into the dream. Then Swami told that if I verify the calendar of 2007, the Star on 21st May is PUNARVASU. This statement was repeated three times by Swami who disappeared. I awoke in the early morning and told about the dream to my husband. We did not yet purchase the New Year calendar. My husband rushed to the neighbor and brought the calendar to verify the truth. We were extremely surprised to see the name of PUNARVASU Star on that Day.

Even the composer of the calendar cannot say this. I immediately phoned to Swami and told this. Swami told, “ Any proof in the dream will be treated as the dream only and cannot be realized as truth in this world on awakening. Some days back I told you that I am coming to your house on a particular day. On that day there was profuse scent of lotus flowers in your house, which was absent outside the house simultaneously in every direction. That was a proof for my entry into your house in the awakened state. If I exhibit the same scent in your dream, it is not a real proof because it becomes a part of the dream and will be treated unreal along with the unreal dream.” I phoned to all our devotees immediately and told about this experience.

Swami spoke: If the human incarnation materializes matter, you say that it is the trick of magic. If the Lord gives Divine visions, you will say that it is the illusion of the eye. You know that Smt.Bharati saw the Divine vision of Lord Datta. She put her finger in the bright radiating wheel revolving on my finger to test the possibility of illusion of the eye. You know that she immediately fell down and was unconscious for a long time. You know that the Doctor also stated that she got heart shock and her finger was stiff for three days and the Doctor stated that her body was shocked by the attack of high voltage electricity.

In spite of all this, doubts still click in your hearts. Now analyze this small proof in the dream. Though it is small it is most perfect from all angles. You know that Shrutakirti is very innocent and ignorant. How can she tell this even in the awakened state? Perhaps some mathematical genius may tell this after doing some calculations and such calculations are impossible in the state of dream. Miracles cannot satisfy atheists, who are always ready with alternative interpretations. But what sort of interpretation they can give for this?
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Very true ! That explains why even the very advanced people will always refuse to "entertain" people with their powers.
Faith is built from the INSIDE IN not from the outside in
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People who don't trust always want proof but no matter how much proof they get they still don't trust.  Better to walk our own path and not get involved in the "prove it" game.
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mapis wrote:
People who don't trust always want proof but no matter how much proof they get they still don't trust.  Better to walk our own path and not get involved in the "prove it" game.


Well put!
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KHEM wrote:
Very true ! That explains why even the very advanced people will always refuse to "entertain" people with their powers.
Faith is built from the INSIDE IN not from the outside in


It is very difficult to accept the human incarnation while alive. Only very few blessed souls who are already liberated and accompanied the Lord to help Him in His mission can recognize and serve the living human form of God. The repulsion to accept a co-human being even as a greater person is very difficult. Then you can never imagine any human being to accept another human being as greatest God. The human form of God is just similar to any human being.

If any specialty is exhibited, people fear and run away. To become close to the human beings, no specialty should be exhibited. If the closeness is achieved, the recognition is lost. To get recognition if some super natural aspect is exhibited, the closeness is lost. Between closeness and recognition, which is better to be retained at the cost of the other? The recognition destroys the freedom to discuss with the Lord and clarify the doubts.

When Krishna was looking as an ordinary human being, Arjuna bombarded Him with all questions and clarified His doubts. However, when Krishna was in the state of cosmic form (Viswarupam), Arjuna shivered with fear and no question could come out. The brain was blocked with shock and even the doubts did not arise. When the doubts remain un-cleared, the ignorance continues. Therefore closeness is better than recognition.

The husband hears the advices from the wife in close association. Therefore through closeness, even if the identification is not there, the soul can be guided into the right path through convincing the soul by preaching. Instead of convincing the soul by exhibiting the super power, which induces the conviction though fear, it is better to induce the conviction through the super talent exhibited in preaching.  Even if you think of the human incarnation as a preacher (Guru), there is nothing wrong.  If you do not recognize Him as God, His crown has not fallen on the ground.

I will just give an example. One woman was a very close devotee. She even used to argue and fight with Me on the points of the spiritual knowledge. One day, she quarreled with Me for not showing any divine vision. The Lord in Me gave a shocking vision of God Dattatreya. She became unconscious for one hour and even got a mild heart attack. From that day onwards, whenever she comes to Me, she is always with terrible fear. She simply accepts whatever I preach. The recognition has come but the closeness is lost.


Therefore Jesus said, “Those who believed Me without proof are really blessed”. This means that the devotees who recognized the Lord through the knowledge always have close freedom and clarify all their doubts and hence they are blessed. They gain the complete devotion. If the proof is shown, the closeness is lost and the gap appears. The doubts are not cleared due to fear. Neither the devotee nor the God enjoys the close association.  

The realization will never come because the ignorance remains due to un-cleared doubts. Therefore the theoretical recognition arrived through the knowledge is always the best. The practical proof develops not only fear but also the attitude to fulfill the desires and solve the problems using the divine power. The attention is diverted from the path of realization. The real bond of love can never be formed. If the power is recognized, the whole situation is diverted. The mentality is always towards tapping the powers towards personal solutions.

The commercial bond grows. The friendship becomes more and more intensive if the qualities of the human form of God become more and more similar. I heard some people telling that Sri Satya Sai was printing notes and smuggling the foreign goods! I told them that this allegation is false in the case of Sri Satya Sai, but I told them that in future God has to come in human form with such talents also so that the smugglers approach Him closely and slowly get salvation.
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