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Re: I need clarity...
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kecia33 wrote:
I agree that sex is not love. I believe that if you can't make love to a person's mind that what is done with that person is at best prostitution: giving and receiving a fantasy without the commitment of love attached.

Using the body to procreate is what keeps the planet populated, but I think two people just enjoying the pleasure of their bodies will forget information in the arousal and action stage of sex. And I believe no birth is a mistake organically, however infantile their action may seem to some. When the intellect is engaged after the pleasure is reached, this is where problems come about the difference between sex and love. As long as two consenting people have no adverse consequences from the act of sex, being in love is not an issue.

Maturity and intellect makes for excellent sex with someone you love. Being honest with yourself about expectations, makes for excellent sex with anyone.

I don't judge anyone's sexual actions, that is between them and their God, and if others would spend time judging their own issues, they would find no time to judge others.


Marriage is for reproduction or generation of issues. It is a divine mission. Homosexuality is against the divine mission. It shows only worldly blind attachment. At least marriage with the opposite sex lead to generation of issues and when the issues are generated you are paving a way for the souls coming from the upper world to the earth for giving the gross body for that soul. You are participating in the divine mission and so the marriage is a part of divine mission. And sometimes who knows you may give birth to Adisankara, or birth to Meera. In that case as father and mother of Sankara, as father and mother of Meera, as father and mother of Swami Vivekananda, you are blessed. Is it not? Therefore the marriage is a divine mission. It is not wrong to avoid the marriage provided it is natural, not by force. Avoiding marriage is liberation. When one is attached to God intensively the worldly bonds are dropped naturally. For example take Adi Shankara, He was attached to God, and His mind is not going for any worldly bonds. He did not marry. Similarly Jesus, Swami Vivekananda, all these people; why they do not marry. First they are attached to God and they are liberated from the worldly bonds and therefore these worldly bonds are not attractive to them. So it depends on the interest. That is why learning about God must be done in the child hood itself. Brahmacharya Ashrama. Charya means knowledge.

Marriage is not done in the child hood. By the end of the child hood or brahmacharay you have learned sufficiently about God. Knowledge is completed.  You must have got devotion completely on God. In that case automatically the liberation is a spontaneous process. You are not willing to marry; that is very good. But after finishing Brahma Charay also if you have desire to marry that means even after learning about God the real interest is not created on GOD. In that case better marry. Now after marrying in course of time again continue your effort. The Brhma charya should be continued, that is learning about God. In that wife also can take part. Then slowly by Vanprasthshrama the third ashrama you may develop interest on God, and she may also develop interest on God and then both of you like co-spiritual aspirant, as an association in spiritual effort, and finally sanyasa the complete absorption on God. It is again reaching the goal late. Any way one should not leave the marriage by force. If one is not interested in marriage due to his interest on God then it is not wrong. If interest on God is not there then He should marry. Some people are not interested in God and they also not interested in marrying, they do not want to take responsibility; they want to enjoy, something like that. That is not correct. Reason must be interest on God. Sankara did not marry, Jesus did not marry, and that is OK.

While selecting the wife our elders were very much concentrating on the back ground of the girl. If the back ground of the girl is good and they are also spiritual aspirants, then the girl also will get that culture. So she will be congenial to you in your spiritual effort also. That is why in marriage, in olden days the back ground is seen very much in our elder generation. But today marriage is simply done just for physical body attraction or just for financial consideration. They are not correct. In marriage your primary aim should be for selecting a partner for your spiritual achievement. That interest atleast she must have. So that both of them can go together. The marriage is not wrong provided the partner is good and also helpful in gaining the spiritual path, it is good. In spiritual path also the satsanga should be done, you need a companion you need some body to discuss about God, if it is your wife how lucky.



 
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