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Past life as a Templar Knight in a Muslim prison, escaping..
erik


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Hello folks,

in october or november 2002, in Rishikesh, India, i was, one way or another, SHOWN these scenes from a past life.

I think it's a little too much to rewrite the whole story, it will take a long time, so i will give you the site on where i posted this experience.



Some more stories of people who had simular experiences ?
And how it affects your present daily life ?

I hope to hear from you soon,

Haribol

Erik.

The link doesn't work anymore, the forum changed it, only i can see it when i log in, so i will copy and paste the story here....here it is, with the original, funny and mind blowing reactions :

Posted: 16/12/2006 Post subject: I'm looking for identification for a past life remembrance

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Haribol,

I am looking for an identification for a Templar knight or an event that happened after 1147 (i think).

This happened to me in 2002 :

I was in Rishikesh, India for the 3rd time ( i am a yoga teacher and learned yoga there in 1998) and used to meditate on Shiva from 3 o'clock in the morning until around 5 or 5.30. I did more yoga and i was in a receptive state.
When one day somewhere in november or october 2002 before i woke up, i or i had a dream or i was taken out of my body by someone, i think the latter.
I was shown a peak inside the Akashi chronicles (everything we think, feel, say or do is recorded in this subtle space, great yogi's can tab into this).
I was shown the following :

I saw a marketplace where everybody did their normal business, it was a medieval marketplace, suddenly these people where under attack (i guess by muslim, i don't know for sure) and i witnessed a great slaughter among these people, blood etc....
The next scene was that i "floated" in the top of a wooden church, the woodcarvings were from extraordinary quality, i remembered to be in great joy seeing this. Then so many people fled or were driven into this church and the church, with the people inside where set on fire to burn to ashes.
Next scene and intuive knowledge where i was, i found myself in a prison camp in the desert.
This prison camp was divided into 2, one for the captivated Christians who were faithful to Christ, didn't want to convert to islam and were about to die by the sword.
The other side was for the Christians who agreed to fight with the muslims, i don't know if they had to convert or not.
Anyway, i was one of them who chose to fight with the muslims......but i did this in order to escape !!
So i must have had a plan.
Then i saw myself exchanging notes with fellow prisoners from, i think, the other side, just to let them know i was not a lowlife traitor, but i did this to escape and i might have invited some of them to go with me ( i learned later, by reading books on the Templars that it was quite out of the ordinary for a Templar to read and write, so i must have been a high ranking Templar).
So i was getting trained (this side was a trainings camp) to join the fight together with the muslims.
There was a muslim who had the task to guard me and my comrades ( I was not the only one who decided to join them). I had the strong impression that i had made friends with him.
The next thing i clearly saw, was that it was night and the muslim guard was suspicious, he looked through a round hole in his wooden door ( i saw this from the inside of his room) to oversee the prisoners ( he might have had some kind of knowledge of us escaping, a God feeling) and then i saw myself blowing my breath over the palm of my right hand into his face, he got tired and retired to his bed to get some sleep ( so i must have possessed some magic powers, cause i might have been out of my body doing this, i don't know).
So i opened up the door and took his shoes (sandals) with me, leaving the door open. I think i did this just to screw him one way or another, like proving my wickedness or sense of superiority towards him.
We had to hurry up ( i was not alone) and the next segment i still don't understand, that's why i think it must have been a dream, although i clearly felt that i was taken out of my body and when this all finished, i was gently brought back to my body.
So we were in a hurry and then we run to a cave complex, we had balloons of all kinds of colors, purple, red, orange in our hands and with this, we floated into the caves downwards until we reached a cave where we got out ( i know, it sounds weird, i was not on drugs or so, again, i really don't understand this scene).
So we got out and entered a magical scene, a huge Cathedral was there to welcome us, we were so happy and relieved, i saw my men kneeling down before the Cathedral and then i saw that they wore white gowns with red crosses on the back ( i read in a book that i bought last year, that the Pope at that time ordered to sow a red cross on the back of the gowns, this was ordered in 1147, that's why i know this all happened after 1147).

Now can anybody, please, please tell me if this has been recorder in writing in some sort of book or so.
You see, sometimes i feel a little bit not so good, about what i did to this poor muslim guard, he must have been punished by his comrades (although i met him in this life also, i think still wearing the scars of the past, he could vividly remember this all, yet he is on his way to enlightenment, may God bless him.).
But still it would be nice to, one way or another, rectify his name and fame, whenever still recorded by oral tradition or otherwise in some remote Middle East village or so.

Okay, i hope somebody can help me out here.

Thanks.

Erik.
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Eric: This forum isn't really intended for personal examination of potential past life stories. This particular forum is intended for the scholary discussion of the biographies of individuals active in the order at various times. For this reason, I am going to move your topic to a different forum.
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I am always amused at the idea of people thinking that if you were captured by the Saracens,all you had to do was agree to embrace Islam, say a few words and that was the end of it...you seem to forget that in order to become a Muslim, you have to be CIRCUMCISED...funny, you doesn't remember THAT part! If one returned to medieval Europe with a crucial piece missing, you certainly could NOT deny your involvement with the Muslims, or else you might be suspected of being a Jew in hiding!
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Posted: 16/12/2006 Post subject: I'm looking for identification for a past life remembrance

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Hello Semiranis,

you have every right to be sceptical.

well, you are right, i wasn't SHOWN this part, i didn't think it was important at that time, nor do i know if i had agreed to become a muslim also, so being circumcised. All i know is that i must have agreed to join them in the fight, so i don't know if i had to become a muslim.

Again, these parts were shown to me for a reason, a particular reason, to make me realize what had happened in this time and why i was in Rishikesh, with this particular Swami.

You know, he explained me at a time in 1998 that all the tendencies, habbits, intuive thinking and actions, even the whole character of a person, survives death (the mind never dies) and although you forget your past life, you will walk around with all these impressions in your present life (how could Mozart become a musical wonder child at the age of 6-7?).

When i was around 7 years of age i wrote to a educational television show for muslims a letter (anomious, forgive me my poor spelling), that they had to get out of my country and soon, cause i was thinking at that time that they wanted to take over my country. I was calling them names also in that letter.
Now, where does this come from ?

I learned also from this Swami in India that you are given a blueprint of your life to be before birth and that you forget all this due to Maya (illusive energy), after you're born.

Anyway, to learn more from this topic, you might check out
www.sivananda.com or go to google, enter Thought Power and read this online book about the nature of thoughts.

You might be even more sceptical after reading this and got every right to be like that, but i'm not telling you a fairy tale nor do i want to be interesting or whatever, i'm telling things like i have been through, thruthfully.

So i have to go to work now, thank you for your information which you wanted to share with me, it makes me wiser also.

Haribol,

erik.
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funny, you doesn't remember THAT part!


I remember that part and it occurred when I was two or three days old.

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No offense, but this type of posting is insanity, I have not been on this forum long, but this kind of non-sense should not be allowed to be posted on such a prestigious forum as this.

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Hello Templar St. John,

no offense taken,

although you might find this insanity and think of this as non-sense, for me it is serious.

You might not be aware of the mystic side of the Templar knights back in those days, there was (and still is) a lot of interest in "knowing" more than we can see or hear with our blunt, material eyes, now here's the challenge. Why did (and still do) we believe strongly in God, asking Him to guide us and to take us to His realm after fysical death, which is beyond our material perception, why shouldn't we try to become aware of the Heavens before we die ?
Now i strongly believe that i belonged to that kind of Templar knights.

Also, if there would be somebody that might know about my story in any written text or book and would tell me about who i was back there then, then i would be very happy to have knowledge about this.
I know for 1000% sure this must have happened in the past (all the signs are pointing in that direction), i'm just looking for identification.


Anyway, may this be an fruitless search, then i have to accept that fact also and maybe let this go.
Or otherwise i will do my utmost best to know the truth by prayer and other means and one day (in this life), maybe He will (in His endless Mercy) grant me some benediction to see for myself the truth.

One quote from our Holy Bible for you :

.....For God speaketh once, yea twice, yet man percieveth it not. IN A DREAM, IN A VISION OF NIGHT, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumberings upon the bed; then He openeth the ears of men and sealeth their instruction.......

Book of Job 33: 14-16

Insane and non-sense ?

Have a nice day, no offense

Erik.
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No offense, but this type of posting is insanity, I have not been on this forum long, but this kind of non-sense should not be allowed to be posted on such a prestigious forum as this.


Whenever I am confronted with Past Life experiences from people, I make the remark that I did not believe in reincarnation the last time I was here either.

TemplarHistory.com runs a forum - the purpose of which is to discuss the history, mystery, myth and legacy of the Knights Templar.

While the historical forums are for straight up history - the Off Topic area, like any forum's off topic area is a place to discuss whatever you like - within the boundaries of good taste.

Therefore lets let those who may believe in Past Life experiences do so without resorting to calling them down on their beliefs.

I find that more offensive than any post which may not be in keeping with the purpose of the forum.

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Dear Erik:

I was just having a little fun with you; it sounds indeed like you have had a genuine experience. What if I were to tell you that I am an Aghora Tantric initiate and a longtime devotee of Lord Shiva already? You do not need to convince me of past life experience; I was known as "Hildegard of Bingen" at one time. I picked up and read one of her books a few years ago at the urging of a friend, and when I did so, it was like picking up and re-reading a diary one kept back in one's childhood; I actually remember spontaneously thinking, "Boy, have I come a LONG WAY since then!" There were also many personal details of her life that helped confirm the connection; I have always had an anchorite's temperament, I have always had a knowledge of the Divine even from a very early age, I have been interested in things medical since I was a child, and many other similarities served to demonstrate the fact convincingly to me; oh, and I also have NO trouble pronouncing German gutturals as well, though I am not German and only speak English.

I will also tell you next time of a very strange "window into the past" experience that I had when I was about ten or eleven. I had no idea what it meant at the time, but I did later on, when I read "The Second Messiah" by Knight and Lomas.
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Sorry, the Templars where nothing like that, I think too many poeple think wrongly about the Templars, they where not mysterious people who had super-human powers and where untouchable, they where people like you and me, the only difference being they were warriors, set on a task, not set by God, but by the papacy of Europe.

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And thadmin, I respect the forum rules, and the members on this forum, I am merely expressing my view, and I don't believe I have dont this in a derogatory way.

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Templar St. John,

you're right about the Templars being a warrior caste, fighting for the pope.

But they were also monks, celibate and keeping their vows, like waking up early in the morning for prayer.
As a monk you pray to God, when a prayer gets intense, it becomes a bit like a meditation, meditation feels good, so my humble opinion is that there must have been Templars who liked to meditate on God.
And when you're in trouble or have a deep desire for something, like fighting these muslims, who were a threat for Europe and had conquered all those lands over Christians and Jews, it is like this :

Knock on the doors of God and He will surely open up and or fullfill your desire or answer you in a different way

In those days there was also some magic going on, i remember being in India, meeting with people from a past life there (westerners and Indians) there was a girl who was a black magic bedoein in those days, i saw a clearcut vision of her walking towards my door one day, same face, different clothes. I might have been learning these kind of practises from her, applying it to escape, but that's speculation.

You see, when Hitler was on the rise and gained power, in America there was a group who were well aware of the fact that there was some superhuman powers involved, so to counteract this, they had founded a group, dealing with these matters to counteract Hitler, see :

www.crystalinks.com/hitler4.html

I hope i am not going too far with this link, if it is, please feel free to remove this reply, i don't mind.

Haribol.

Erik.
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Semiramis,

wow, cool !!!

so you are a long time Shiva devotee, i was a Shiva devotee in the past, i will post a topic on www.astraldynamics.com soon about my experiences with Shiva and will inform you about it. Just go to the search machine and type my username...ganjananda...enjoy.

What means Aghora tantra ?

So Hildegard von Bingen !

I have heard from her, but now i will search google this afternoon for more information, as i will do service at the reception of the ashram i am currently in.

I can't wait to read your "window of the past" experience.

Haribol,

Erik.
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erik, I don't see a problem with that link.

I do respect your views, I really do, but being a discussion forum such as this, you will have to expect some criticism, all within the forum rules of course, but I can't agree with what you are saying, sorry

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Templar St. John,

thank you for your kind answer.

Offcourse i respect also your views and i'm not afraid of some criticism, although i'm sorry that you feel that way, i have been through so many mystic experiences while praying, chanting, meditating and in dreams, that i have the urge to convince, one way or another, people about the supernatural, dark (as a warning to people), superhuman, blissfull and ecstatic modes of mind, proving that there is indeed more than we can see with our material eyes, but i guess i shouldn't do this convincing stuff to everybody, cause many have their own, safe believes. I might be floating from here to there. But i have seen these kind of thing happening, really.

Anyway, thanks for the discussion, good luck,

Erik.

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I will certainly go take a look. I was not able to locate the file with the story in it, but I will keep looking, or I will write it out again and post it soon.
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Ok, here it is!

This incident took place when I was ten or eleven years old. I was at a wedding reception with my mother; I was the only child there. I think she took me along because my dad couldn’t make it at the last minute. It was after the banquet; the dishes and tables had been cleared away some time ago, the bar was open, and the adults were socializing and not paying me any mind. I was wandering idly around the perimeter of the hall. When I came to the double doors of the kitchen I peeked between the gap to see what was going on inside. It was wide enough to afford me a good view of the kitchen’s interior.

There was a large heap of soiled linen tablecloths (this was before polyester) piled on a long table several feet away, and directly in my line of sight, and some distance over to the left, I could see the kitchen staff standing around taking a smoke break and having a conversation over by the stove. Suddenly a shout went up and there was a panic; somehow the heap of tablecloths had caught fire (I don’t know how; it started on the far side of the table from me) and the kitchen immediately filled with an odd sickly-sweetish burning stench rather reminiscent of cooking bacon.

The moment that strange smell hit my nostrils, an incredible sense of horror and revulsion seized me, and I was almost overwhelmed; my knees went weak and I started to tremble uncontrollably! I will never forget it; the awful emotions came roaring right out of nowhere, triggered by that smell! It was as though an unspeakably dreadful, unbearably horrifying memory of some sort had been evoked by this strange smell, yet no mental pictures were forthcoming (thank God!); just this inexplicable, relentless sense of nauseated nameless horror and revulsion (I might add, the smell of cooking bacon had never had any such effect on me before, or since!)

Even more strangely, I knew instinctively (without EVER having smelled such a thing in my short life) that this stench resembled that of burning human flesh. I have NO explanation as to how I knew this (or why burning LINEN tablecloths would smell of such a thing!) I watched in a sort of frozen trance while the kitchen staff rushed to the table and started pulling frantically at the mass of flaming cloth and beating at the flames; at one point as I watched, three of the men seized and heaved up high a bundle of the tablecloths to toss them away from the ones that were actively burning, and I recall that mass of linen cloth looked eerily like a mummy; it was the size and shape of a human body! I remember it seemed to me, in my peculiar mental state, that they moved in slow motion for a few moments, and that the gesture held significance, somehow, as though they were raising up this “mummy” for me to see, even though, of course, in reality they had no idea that anyone was watching them!

A few moments later, the fire was out, and aside from a number of scorched tablecloths, no damage done; the whole drama, from my looking between the doors to the time the fire was extinguished probably took all of five minutes. None of the wedding party, except for myself, was even aware of the incident. The kitchen fans were turned on to dispel the smoke, and only the faintest trace of that awful stench escaped into the main hall, but, it was enough to keep the weirdly terrifying mindset it had evoked in me going strong!

I tell you, I couldn’t get out of there and away from that incredibly disturbing smell fast enough! I had no idea what this all meant; I could not account to myself on any level for my inexplicably violent emotional response to that odd burning stench, or how I even knew in the first place how burning bodies smelled! It all made NO sense whatever and so I never told anyone, not even my mother, about it; I simply forgot the incident.

THEN, years later, I stumbled upon the Knight and Lomas books “The Hiram Key” and “The Second Messiah”. When I came to the all-too-graphic account of Jacques de Molay’s dreadful death by “slow fire”, the long-forgotten memory of this strange, disturbing childhood experience came roaring back all unbidden, and I KNEW I that I finally had my explanation!
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WOW!!!!!

This is far out !!!!

And while awake !!!

God wanted you to know something, to see and realize something coming from the thick layers of dark, mystic mist, covering the ,untill then, hidden past of your life.
This story is so cool, i never had such visions while awake, with me all answers come mostly through the tunnel of night or while chanting, mentally.

Well, at least you now know how your life ended back in those good old days, not so "'ecstatic"' so to speak.

I will give you the directions of this site where i posted some of my mystic experiences, it is www.indiadivine.com go to forum, then to "search" and enter my username ....erik....

I learned there, one way or another, that posting can feed the ego a little too much.

Pfffhhh, your story is still mind-blowing, i can tell you that.

Take care and good luck,

erik.


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Hi Erik

I can't claim to have had a past life as a Templar Knight.  I do own one book on the Templars (Dungeon, Fire & Sword) but that is as close as I have come.  But the only past life experience that I can lay claim to is not too far away chronologically (I suppose, if you consider 150 years close) and that was of a Welsh girl with healing skills in England in December 999.  Sorry it's not more topical to your post.  How does it affect my daily life?  I wish I could say with nobility and reverence that it does, but the truth is that my daily life keeps me busy enough that I don't reflect on it.  Trying not to screw up too much each day keeps me busy.  But thanks for the look at a very interesting PLE.
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Hello Earlof,

thank you for reading this story of mine, i think it is quite important to share those kind of experiences with eachother, we now live in exciting times where everything is out in the open.
We should take full advantage of this, it hasn't been like this always throughout history.

Nice that you can come up with a past life yourself, although you said 150 years back and then the year 999.

Anyway, with self practise you can also step back into your own life thread,
i was lucky, i was shown this life for a particular reason and it clearified a lot of how i think about what is going on in this world of today from a very early age on.

Haribolo !!

erik.
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Well this has been interesting to read erik...however it must have been a good deal later than 1147 i think as balloons were only invented around a hundred and sixty odd years ago in 1842 they were made from pig/cow bladders (originaly) and probably wouldn't have been coloured for a good many years after that (IMO) certainly purple was a very expensive colour to make back then (so i have read) so i cant imagine a purple balloon to have been so readily available to a bunch of Templar come Muslim escapees. I watched a program called Myth busters not so long ago where they did an experiment on a litle girl with a bunch of balloons (to see if they realy could carry a person any distance). The myth busters filled thousands of balloons with helium and got a 44-pound little girl to volunteer. To lift her up required about 4,000 balloons...hmmm

perhaps your balloons were filled with hot air? The first practical hot-air balloon was invented in 1782 by two French brothers, Jacques Étienne and Joseph Michel Montgolfier, wealthy papermakers of Annonay, France.(Google it if you wish)

sorry to be so sceptical but it just dosn't seem to be so long ago given the facts.
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I didn't have a past life as a Night Templer (that I know of) but I have recalled many past lives.  I don't do anything special to recall a past life it just comes to me. One in particular. I have always looked on the ancient Romans with some mild distaste.  I found out some years ago why. I was a soldier at the time Christ was on the cross. I rememered thinking, "this isn't right".   This helpd me realize why one thinks/feels  some  countries or cultures in a negative way.

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