Digging deep here, I thought there was a thread about Karuna. The symbols do give an edge to the energy. I learnt Karuna about 5 years ago the Vinny Amador way, Karuna ki, didn't realise that Mr Rand was discussing franchises lol, wonder what his lineage is like to enable him to think he can do that?  But most just change the name slightly then tm it.  Thing is nowadays there are so many differnt takes on reiki, I must have studied about 30 I think lol, my certificated collection is growing though, lol.

Wow!

I was drawn to your public statement quoted separately below:

"I have worked with the Karuna Ki Reiki symbols before, without the attunement, and have had wonderful results "

Wow!!

RR



[quote="Isisreiki"]If you are a Usui Reiki Master than you don't need all of these other attunements to work with the different symbols. I have worked with the Karuna Ki Reiki symbols before, without the attunement, and have had wonderful results (I now a only working with Zonar, Harth, and Shanti, for personal reasons).

Check out http://web.archive.org/web/20020806012453/angelreiki.nu/karunaki/ for a more accurate history of the system. Which is very interesting because Rand leaves out quite a bit.

I just thought you should know.[/quote]

Gem,

Please do not think that I am picking on you. Being a Energy Healer of so many years of experience, surely you should be able to get to the core of my reason to ask this question. A truthful answer will be appreciated given that being so ancient you have hardly anything to lose but rather utilize this opportunity to share your knowledge with with younger ones like me who are half your age and some others here may even be one fifth your age declared on this forum (100!)! And if for some Higher/Esoteric/Spiritually-Classified Reasoning you would rather not share, then your silence would be fine too and respected, at least by me!

Q: WHY DID YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH 30 DIFFERENT MODALITIES, CERTIFICATIONS?  WHY WAS THE FIRST ONE NOT CONVINCING ENOUGH FOR ALL FURTHER EXPLORATIONS TO STOP??

Rohiniranjan

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[quote="Gem"]Digging deep here, I thought there was a thread about Karuna. The symbols do give an edge to the energy. I learnt Karuna about 5 years ago the Vinny Amador way, Karuna ki, didn't realise that Mr Rand was discussing franchises lol, wonder what his lineage is like to enable him to think he can do that?  But most just change the name slightly then tm it.  Thing is nowadays there are so many differnt takes on reiki, I must have studied about 30 I think lol, my certificated collection is growing though, lol.[/quote]

Perhaps because I became addicted to the energy and the unique and mostly special experience of 'attunements'.  I say mostly because some I found to be a waste of time and money lol.

I wanted to understand what others were charging for and teaching in order to be able to offer the best classes and workshops. I wanted to guage their modes of delivery, the value for money and the realism behind so many different 'reiki's'. I wanted to enlarge my experience and expand my knowledge and not be limited by one particular lineage. I wanted more, to see if the different lineages were any stronger or weaker and how they had evolved.

Funny I seem to have come full circle here lol.... let us not forget the main reason behind reiki and other healing energies.... helping others to feel better?

Why would I think you were picking on me?

Sorry, nothing much to add here as I've never studied Karuna, just didn't get around to it for whatever reason. I've been involved with a number of different Reiki or Reiki-like systems and all had their own unique flavor but in the end, I too believe, it's all about the individual practitioner. At the source  the energy's the energy , beautiful in it's simplicity like all other things mystical.
Heh, Vinny Amador, there's a name I haven't heard in years.