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pirbid
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Age: 39 Zodiac: 
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:16 am |
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Hallo, Eye of Tiger. I could not help feeling drawn to your last post in this thread. I have always felt more or less like Alee, only it seems to be getting worse.
Whenever I am with people, whether loved ones or strangers, I feel tension building up in my stomach, then extending to other parts. In the end I am so tense I can hardly stand up straight (my stomach contracts into a cold ball) and my neck and jaw are breaking tight so that I can hardly talk or breathe. By the time I can get away I am thoroughly exhausted.
For every hour I spend with other people, I need about two to recharge by myself, so that when I am working many shifts I end up falling ill (I also work surrounded by cables, electrical appliances, radars... surely not the most healthy environment, and we sometimes spend nights there too).
I have been trying to find a solution for this strange condition (other people seem to need to be always surrounded by others in order to feel good) but in all these years, the only advice I received was:
- Soak for 45 minutes in a tub full of warm water and 2 kgs of salt.
- Keep your stomach warm and well covered at all times.
The second seems to work slightly (the first I can hardly ever find the time to do), but I still feel very raw after every encounter. Since I do not know how to protect myself, I just stay at home for as long as I can when not working a shift. Even talking on the phone I can pick up the other person's aches, even if they do not tell me about them (but they usually do).
I am feeling very tired and out of sorts. Do you know any way to get better? I just do not know where to ask for help any more. You seem kind and wise in your answers and experienced in these matters. Can I do something for myself, other than hide all the time?
Thank you 
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acaveyogi
Age: 59 Zodiac: 
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:03 am |
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| pirbid wrote: |
Hallo, Eye of Tiger. I could not help feeling drawn to your last post in this thread. I have always felt more or less like Alee, only it seems to be getting worse.
Whenever I am with people, whether loved ones or strangers, I feel tension building up in my stomach, then extending to other parts. In the end I am so tense I can hardly stand up straight (my stomach contracts into a cold ball) and my neck and jaw are breaking tight so that I can hardly talk or breathe. By the time I can get away I am thoroughly exhausted.
For every hour I spend with other people, I need about two to recharge by myself, so that when I am working many shifts I end up falling ill (I also work surrounded by cables, electrical appliances, radars... surely not the most healthy environment, and we sometimes spend nights there too).
I have been trying to find a solution for this strange condition (other people seem to need to be always surrounded by others in order to feel good) but in all these years, the only advice I received was:
- Soak for 45 minutes in a tub full of warm water and 2 kgs of salt.
- Keep your stomach warm and well covered at all times.
The second seems to work slightly (the first I can hardly ever find the time to do), but I still feel very raw after every encounter. Since I do not know how to protect myself, I just stay at home for as long as I can when not working a shift. Even talking on the phone I can pick up the other person's aches, even if they do not tell me about them (but they usually do).
I am feeling very tired and out of sorts. Do you know any way to get better? I just do not know where to ask for help any more. You seem kind and wise in your answers and experienced in these matters. Can I do something for myself, other than hide all the time?
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Hi Pirbid  my wife is taking a nap, so I am running around loose on this messageboard  !
Anyway Pirbid, your problem is that the people around you are "psychic vampires" and you are being drained of your "life energy" by them. And just so that there is no confusion here, they will "all" live longer because "you" are a part of their lives. These things happen.
You are loved!
john
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eye_of_tiger
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Age: 55 Zodiac: 
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:45 am |
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| Anyway Pirbid, your problem is that the people around you are "psychic vampires" and you are being drained of your "life energy" by them. |
I would like to add here that most of the people draining your vital energies are not doing this intentionally.
The often used term psychic vampire, while it definitely applies to certain individuals who can quickly suck you dry of your life force if you allow them to, therefore seems rather unfair to me as a general label to describe when the overall flow is in their direction (and away from you).
It is quite normal in otherwise healthy relationships for the energy to flow first one way and then in the next moment the other, as long as over the longer term both partners are pulling their weight, and it is by their mutual agreement. Very rarely if ever are the energy flows in both directions equal.
It is only when one of the partners constantly takes, takes, takes without giving something of value in return and is on a personal power trip that I would choose to describe them as being a psychic vampire.
Take care,
eye_of_tiger
PS: By the way I would like to take this opportunity to welcome John to this board, and sincerely hope that we will continue to see both him and his wife around on the forums as valued members for many more years to come.
It was very nice meeting you! 
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alee
Age: 36 Zodiac: 
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:59 am |
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Hallo Eye of Tiger,
Thanks for the reply and the insight.
"Highly empathic" huh? Googled up the subject and did some reading, seems to describe me correctly (hmmm maybe up to 65%?). May have scored higher if I havent been so busy numbing my senses for all these years.No wonder people becomes repulsing after a while.
Is this a curse or a gift? I remember from "Charmed" (sorry, I just loved that TV series :P since it seems to strike a chord in me) that one of the witches nearly died when she got this empath ability. she was feeling too much.
Looking back in introspect, it must have been a curse because it had caused me a lot of pains and discomforts. I used to get these terrible nightmares when I was a child, the same one almost every night that I was being chased by a ghost. Looking back now, I would conclude that it was the empath in me that pick up these signals, as well as many ghostly encounters which was to come in later years. It just freaks me out.
Other than that, this feeling of "deep sense of knowing" sometimes doesnt help at all. I lost my father last year, everybody thought I was so cold and heartless because I wasnt appeared that sad. I knew it was his time and I knew death is just a prelude to a new begining. All these "knowing" without knowing why sometimes makes me think I am just plain crazy.
One of the reason I asked for psychic insight about my career change is the whispering of the heart (well it has become a nagging to be more precise), "get out, get out, get out..." I know that staying in a vessel with 300 ppl for 3 months at a time is causing me great discomfort, more importantly I know my heart is dying and my soul is shrinking because I am not following its desires and dreams..... Enough said and I hope you wont think I am a hallucinating freak.
By the way it's very hard to express what I am feeling and I hope this make sense. I feel as if I have stumbled upon a gem to have found this place (as they say, everything happens for a reason!). It's an enviroment that I feel safe and relieved. Relieved that I am not alone.
Thanking you......
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eye_of_tiger
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Age: 55 Zodiac: 
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:37 am |
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| Is this a curse or a gift? I remember from "Charmed" (sorry, I just loved that TV series :P since it seems to strike a chord in me) that one of the witches nearly died when she got this empath ability. she was feeling too much. |
If you can learn to turn off these abilities and not have them operating 24/7, then you can effectively do this type of work while at the same time keeping your sanity and good health.
Only if you allow your empathic abilities to take control over you should they be considered as a curse. Without some empathy, we are like a cold and calculating empty machine.
Empathy is an essential requirement for any successful healer, including but not restricted to a conventional doctor.
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People often equate caring with making yourself ill worrying about something. Just because you may not be openly grieving, they frequently misinterpret this to mean that you are not experiencing deep emotional pain. Even the most accomplished mediums feel a deep personal loss and sadness for not being able to hold their loved one physically in their arms just one more time.
In a similar manner people who are themselves highly empathic often misinterpret other people's reactions because what these other people think and feel could be very different from what they actually do. In other words, empaths like ourselves are often receiving mixed signals about another person's true intentions toward us. We may therefore learn to mistrust our intuitive abilities when it is the outer appearances which are misleading us. If we can at times misinterpret other people's reactions, how much more easily is to for them to misinterpret our's.
I do not wish to be labelled as being crazy for possessing these spiritual gifts and wanting to help others, but I have given up long ago wanting to be regarded by our modern society's standards as being anything approaching "normal".
To be honest with you much of our modern societies standards and values due not impress me much, and I would therefore prefer to number my friends among genuine and caring people including your good self, than among those regarded by our society as being by their so called standards "normal".
Be kinder to yourself,
eye_of_tiger 
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