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Cascade of Light
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A friend of mine recently came home from watching a well known medium. She was given a message and was over the moon at the information the medium had given her saying that it proved life after death.


My thoughts were that the information she was given was in fact just a psychic reading and not proof of life after death. The 'medium' was linking into her and not her parents. The 'medium' was reading her thoughts and feelings and information that she held about her parents, not her acutal parent's spirits.

Is there ever a way of getting concrete proof that any medium actually contacts the dead and their spirits rather than just mind reading or taking energy reading or aura reading from the living sitter in front of them?
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I disagree.

There is a difference between psychic and a mediumistic connection (or a reading) whereby a true medium would give evidence (through spirit) to the one on this side of life about events, details, anniversaries, diseases, causes of death and all sorts of other details only known the the living (your friend). If, however, the medium went on analysing your friend and her current situation, I would call that a psychic connection.

Proof? The proof is what messages the medium conveys through spirit to the living by giving details that ONLY the one on this side of life would validate. Sometimes there are details (I'm sure in everybody's life) that only a few people know including that who is in the spirit world.

A visit to any spiritualist church on a Clairvoyance evening would be quite an eye-opener. I have seen some amazing demonstrations by mediums picking someone in a congregation and bringing in messages from the world of spirit that only the one to whom the message belonged to could validate. Sometimes the medium doesn't know who the visiting spirit is meant for...He/She may have an idea or a direction in the congregation, but they cannot always pinpoint as to whom exactly.

I don't know anything about aura reading and, therefore, cannot comment about its connection or relevance to spirit communication.

I have had a handful of mediumistic experiences in a classroom and in a development circle and the spirit entity who came to visit I had NO idea who he was there for until I started describing him to the group and one of the members started giving feedback and validation to what I was seeing and being shown by the visiting spirit. In my very, very, very small experience, I don't think I was making a psychic connection with the person next to me or one of the members in the classroom.

This is an interesting topic and I am sure you will get a lot more qualified comments than mine.
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Well, from my point of view, what is happening is you are questioning where the information is coming from.  Psychics and Mediums are pretty much the same, they just get their information from a different area, same as for me, I get my information from the Akashic Records, it all comes from the same place, we just use different tools and methods to get the information.  This is probably linking more to philosopy but Mediums and Psychics are both true in my opinion.  and Like Cedars, I am somewhat limited in my experience with others and their modalitys, but this is my opinion only.

Thanks for asking this questions, it is very thought provoking.
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cedars wrote:
I disagree.

There is a difference between psychic and a mediumistic connection (or a reading) whereby a true medium would give evidence (through spirit) to the one on this side of life about events, details, anniversaries, diseases, causes of death and all sorts of other details only known the the living (your friend).


Thats what this medium did. But why do you think that is a medium connection?  Just because the person says they use a spirit guide or says that spirit was telling them the information? The person might just have named their ego or higher self or voice in their head as their guide or call them spirit?

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If, however, the medium went on analysing your friend and her current situation, I would call that a psychic connection.

No they kept the information limited to the deceased and their relationship. But gave no information that my friend didn't already know.

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Proof? The proof is what messages the medium conveys through spirit to the living by giving details that ONLY the one on this side of life would validate. Sometimes there are details (I'm sure in everybody's life) that only a few people know including that who is in the spirit world.


Yes, but thats whats suddenly shaken my belief. My friend knew the details and so  she took this as confirmation that the medium was in contact with her parents, but this information would also have been in my friend's aura and mind and so easy to extract in a psychic reading no deceased input needed.

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A visit to any spiritualist church on a Clairvoyance evening would be quite an eye-opener. I have seen some amazing demonstrations by mediums picking someone in a congregation and bringing in messages from the world of spirit that only the one to whom the message belonged to could validate. Sometimes the medium doesn't know who the visiting spirit is meant for...He/She may have an idea or a direction in the congregation, but they cannot always pinpoint as to whom exactly.
There was a recent programme that I caught that videoed a congregation and demonstration and it showed the resident medium in very bad light.

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I don't know anything about aura reading and, therefore, cannot comment about its connection or relevance to spirit communication.

There is no need for belief of the spirit world, life after death or spirit guides to read auras.

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I have had a handful of mediumistic experiences in a classroom and in a development circle and the spirit entity who came to visit I had NO idea who he was there for until I started describing him to the group and one of the members started giving feedback and validation to what I was seeing and being shown by the visiting spirit. In my very, very, very small experience, I don't think I was making a psychic connection with the person next to me or one of the members in the classroom.
The programme I just  mentioned highlighted how people chose to take the reading and try and make it fit. It was very sad as it portrayed these grieving people as desperate to believe in  life carrying on.

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This is an interesting topic and I am sure you will get a lot more qualified comments than mine.


How can anyone be qualified? It is all our relative experiences. I have been through a rough patch these last few days and then this made me query everything once again. I know that there are things that test us and things that help us, but it appears that there might be very few, if any true, mediums but rather more psychics.
Cascade of Light
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MangoMom wrote:
Well, from my point of view, what is happening is you are questioning where the information is coming from.  Psychics and Mediums are pretty much the same, they just get their information from a different area, same as for me, I get my information from the Akashic Records, it all comes from the same place, we just use different tools and methods to get the information.


Ahh yes, you are right, of course, I have visited and read records myself  but that information is definately not from the deceased, or proof of life after death?

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This is probably linking more to philosopy but Mediums and Psychics are both true in my opinion.  and Like Cedars, I am somewhat limited in my experience with others and their modalitys, but this is my opinion only.

Thanks for asking this questions, it is very thought provoking.


Thanks, wish I could carry on my innocent littel way, but I had to ask how she got on.  I am in a messy confusion now lol. But nothing now seems to provide proof of contiunuation, does it?
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