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spiritalk


Age: 65
Zodiac:
Aquarius



Joined: 09 Mar 2006
Posts: 2922
Location: Etobicoke, Canada
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Seduction is when 2 people participate.  If you are enticing with or without the others' permission, it is interference in their life.



 
eidhneán ini


Age: 34
Zodiac:
Libra



Joined: 04 Mar 2008
Posts: 263
Location: wherever
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I feel  like I'm stepping on your toes, but since this is a public forum and you asked.....I do think it's wrong what you're doing.  I'm not passing judgement on you.  I just worry this may not be what you truly need or want, or what she needs or wants.  i think it's wrong to "change" people's minds.  Everything that has been said in the interim since my last post in this thread is absolutely true.  

It is hard to let go but you must.

Love is a crazy thing. When you truly love someone a sense of complete selflessness washes over you.  It does not mean you are a doormat.  It means that you will put their needs before your own when life calls upon you to do that.  You really must be willing be do what will truly make them happy.  I would not think that it's necessary to repeat what I said, or what the others have said, only this is something that I believe very very strongly.  You must do everything you can to avoid being responsible for steering someone off their path in life.  Let fate lead them back.  Follow your own path, keep your heart open and maybe you will find her again, or even another experience that is meant for you.  

Time is a strange thing, but time may bring her back to you on your own without any form of control.    This is not a bad thing.  But it is not easy, either.  It requires patience.  

I do speak from experience and I will say that wishing, praying, seducing, pleading and desperation does not always end well.  Looking back, I regret my actions.
Kypstal


Age: 28
Zodiac:
Scorpio



Joined: 20 Apr 2008
Posts: 45

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Hi all,

You all are right, I can't even believe I've come so down to do this, I can't justify myself just by telling other people say "this works, wthis will attract youe ex-back, I guess it sounds too tempting but in the end I guess it ended with a mix of love and evenge, I guess I never was good at this because deeper in my hearth I knew I couldn't (shouldn't) do it.

When she left me almost 4 months ago, she was... cruel as hell, she told me things like she had left me because sex with me just wasn't good enough for her and she just didn't trust me (I always had trusted her even if she told me that sleept in the same room with another guy I refused to think something happened so this hit me pretty hard) , she treated me like trash, I "forgot" her for cheating on me (even if technically she didn't do it because we had a deal in that sense tha let us have sex with anyone we wanted) finally after some heavy talking she decided to give me the chance of starting a new relationship as friends and I was glad. In the beginning everything looked quite good and we talked the same way we did when were a couple with happiness and good vibe but when she moved to antoher town, she started to change, at the beginning she treated me well but after a weekend she started to talk me of things I wasn't yet prepared to hear, it was too early, things were too hard and I blame her for some things that I should never had (nothing to do with sex). After that everything went to hell, she called me two 2 dayes later and we talked in a very good mood even having telephonic sex, but after that day she started changed a lot, I just wasn't as cool as her new friends, She just hasn't a place for me, lost her confidence in me all of a sudden and 2 weeks after that decided to break her friendship with me, she didn't even give me a reason that time, she couldn't or didn't want to. Anyway I kind of thank her for the 2 great years I have passed with her and I told her we should be able to call each other if we wanted and the other should decided if he/she take call the call or not, she agreed.

Of course, nobody called, times have been pretty hard since she wasn't only my love, she just was by far my best friend by far and I had lost it all in less than a month.

Yesterday I sent her a message warning her about some poisoned oil  whe had had an alert in our country and telling her I would appear in a tv-show if she wanted to see it some day, I also told her I would like us to made up and to take care of herself.

I was quite sure she wouldn't reply it, she didn't , she won't.
I know it's over that I'm "dead" for her and that I should consider her "dead" for me, she doesn't hate me, she just ignores me as I wouldn't exist as I never had.

Anyway, not one of these things gave me right to do what I did (or tried to) and as I told her when I (left her left me, I mean I could ask her for another chance as a couple and she knew it but it just didn't make sense anymore, we still loved each other a lot but things were just too changed and she wanted things she couldn't have being my girlfiend) I told her I just want her to be happy and if I couldn't give her that anymore, well what was the point?

So, from now on past is past, enjoyed in its time suffered in its time, all I have is present and an unknown future.

I know we love each oteh as much anyone can love I know I will be very hesitant to love or trust anyone in the future but basically I know I have to "kill" this old me and reborn as someone new with no love or hate for her, just the same she feels for me: total indiference.

I thank all you for letting me know how wrong I was and I hope I haven't bored you too much with my history, I just felt you had the right to know what made me do the stupid things I did.

Best wishes to all of you!
spiritalk


Age: 65
Zodiac:
Aquarius



Joined: 09 Mar 2006
Posts: 2922
Location: Etobicoke, Canada
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It is always from pain.  But if we consider the pain is our own ego struggling with understanding the abuse it must take, we can understand ourselves better.  

When we release the past, a new door (or window) opens into a bright and exciting future.  Release this old energy and allow yourself to move onward and upward.
Kypstal


Age: 28
Zodiac:
Scorpio



Joined: 20 Apr 2008
Posts: 45

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Thanks for your words, after the last message I sent her I know for sure that the love we once had is dead and buried and our friendship too so I'm really releasing all that energies I have been wasting in the last months and starting to fell better, I guess in a way it's sort of a relief to know it's over, not having any doubt about it.



 
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