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georgek


Age: 104
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Taurus



Joined: 07 Jul 2007
Posts: 136
Location: "A Tread Foot"
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flight _of_angelwings wrote:
Hi George,

We have a psychic reading forum should you wish to give readings to members on here to help you strenghten your abilities or should you wish to ask for one yourself.  It is a sub forum off this one.


Thank you madam,

I think it would be interesting.

Wonder how they would build on "Wollaton Flood" ?

Could they find the missing link?

I am not interested in mundane things.....I need answers, as my power is limited.

Thank you

Regards George
Gem
Tarot and Crystal


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Hi George, Happy Birthday again!  

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All I am saying, is that your protection is not really doing much for you.

I had no idea that you were a Medium, yet I could see you, in the hall.

By making this point, I am saying that you are open to observation, which is perhaps dissolving the point about clear protection.

It is not because you stand out by strong emanations, but I find most of you on this site are not difficult to read.  You are standing out stronger than "Gem" for some reason, I don't know why. Perhaps you pour out more psychic energy?



I am notoriously difficult to read because of my internet 'cloak' or layer of protection when I am online. I have had many invasive experiences and so I tend to become invisible.  In reality very few have ever been able to read me lol. Your view of Spiritalk, in a hall, perhaps was a glimpse of a moment when, during her medium sessions, she would be more open to viewing? Now this doesn't mean that she has any less protected herself but has honed the level and type of protection to work correctly for that moment in time?

We could all write posts describing others as we see them, but I would like to respectfully suggest that perhaps ethics and confidentiality and also restraint should come into play here? It can be very unnerving to people, if someone insensitively pries or uses their talents to prove a point?
spiritalk


Age: 69
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First of all George....protection is not about whether or not someone can read you.  I happen to be very easy to read, while Gem through her own practices is not.  I still do not understand your message as it is symbolism and not of my awareness.  Whether or not you would like to tell me what it means is up to you.  If it is for you to understand me...be aware that stems from your own mind - not spirit.

That is no reflection on your psychic abilities or anyone else's.  Protection IS about yourself.  When you attune at that physical, material level and use it as you are doing, you are causing yourself more harm than anyone else.  Raising it to a spiritual level and you would be learning spirituality.  Unfortunately it is not available at this kind of level.

Also when you use this astral level of reading you are only getting a more reflective reading of the people you are touching.  I would also hazzard a guess...you are de-energized in the practice?  The first blush is a strong warm feeling and then in a short time feeling like you have been totally drained.  That is also a symptom of this level of work.  NEVER doing spirit work - at a spiritually protected level - is the medium ever de-energized...if anything, they are almost buzzed by the return of energy during and following its practice.  Just some consideration for your education.

In a discussion forum it is not about reading people.  I take little time or effort as to who I am speaking with...merely use their own words to discuss a topic.  Reading someone is a totally different matter and is done (ethically) only with permission.
georgek


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First of all George....protection is not about whether or not someone can read you.

Yet I would have thought that "noticing" is the first attraction ? I happen to be very easy to read, while Gem through her own practices is not.

True

 I still do not understand your message as it is symbolism and not of my awareness.

Well...what I mean by that, is that it is the thought behind the deed and not the deed itself. That shapes, objects or rituals are nothing more than imaterial.  
Whether or not you would like to tell me what it means is up to you.

Personally, I do not have 100% concrete spirituality and belief, so I feel that by not doing so, is lowering my protection barrier. Perhaps it is acase of feeling more confident and understanding spirituality that makes us stronger ?

 If it is for you to understand me...be aware that stems from your own mind - not spirit.

Well...I have had it said to me before that it is the darkness that is giving me this information, but that is usually the case throughout history.
As it was said to Christ when he performed miracles.



That is no reflection on your psychic abilities or anyone else's.  Protection IS about yourself.  When you attune at that physical, material level and use it as you are doing, you are causing yourself more harm than anyone else.

I don't realise that I am using it, but I am not going to pretend that I do not see, when I do. Nor am I going to pretend that I am deaf if I hear something that I don't want to listen to.
If it is a case that it is a bad thing, I have had cases where if I had ignored the voices in my head, I would have been killed. So I do not understand why I shoud treat such things with contempt, when many times it has saved me from physical harm. Or should I drive into an unlit vehicle because the voice in my head is wrong?

 Raising it to a spiritual level and you would be learning spirituality.  Unfortunately it is not available at this kind of level.

Well, I am not spiritual, so perhaps I ought to leave this sort of thing to the pure in heart?
Also when you use this astral level of reading you are only getting a more reflective reading of the people you are touching.  I would also hazzard a guess...you are de-energized in the practice?  The first blush is a strong warm feeling and then in a short time feeling like you have been totally drained.

Hmmm...not really. So looking at the forums, I have seen nothing through the spiritual side. There are psychics, yet no one is saying anything apart from agreeing to a very broad based opinion. In actual fact, I am about the only person here(and I am not saying this with a boast) who has said anything concrete.

"Oh...I cannot see on your desk because I am spiritual, yet I can see on THEIR desk being none spiritual".

Yet the differnce, is that they are holy and I am bad, so they are saying nothing. Not the case of the spiritual side having greater proficiency than the negative, but a case of "Oh I know, but I am keeping quiet"

Yet silence adorns our pages.


 That is also a symptom of this level of work.  NEVER doing spirit work - at a spiritually protected level - is the medium ever de-energized...if anything, they are almost buzzed by the return of energy during and following its practice.  Just some consideration for your education.

I don't understand......

In a discussion forum it is not about reading people.  I take little time or effort as to who I am speaking with...merely use their own words to discuss a topic.  Reading someone is a totally different matter and is done (ethically) only with permission.

That makes sense, but are we to accept what we are being told by "I say so regime" If being non spiritual is having doubts, then I have to concede on this point.

I am not profoundly an adept, but a simple man with the ability to understand others. Nor am I spiritual, as I cannot conform to this level of attainment.
Or if it be a case of "turning over a new leaf" overnight, that would not change me from being what I cannot be.

Yet, I am learning and will continue to listen.
It seems that going by what you are telling me, is that I have to turn off to be a happy individual and progress on the rightious path of development.


Regards George
spiritalk


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First of all George....protection is not about whether or not someone can read you.

Yet I would have thought that "noticing" is the first attraction ?


Protection is a ritual form of filtering negativity and has nothing whatsoever to do with picking someone else up at that time.  Reading someone take the effort of attunement into that person.  Hence, you are really just playing with it and making this effort to see what you get.

I happen to be very easy to read, while Gem through her own practices is not.

True

 I still do not understand your message as it is symbolism and not of my awareness.

Well...what I mean by that, is that it is the thought behind the deed and not the deed itself. That shapes, objects or rituals are nothing more than imaterial.

All of life is about energy.  The rituals used are another form of energy and protection for another vibration of life.  Electricity is immaterial but it works - just plug in your appliances and test out that unseen energy.



 
Whether or not you would like to tell me what it means is up to you.

Personally, I do not have 100% concrete spirituality and belief, so I feel that by not doing so, is lowering my protection barrier. Perhaps it is acase of feeling more confident and understanding spirituality that makes us stronger ?

Why would you post some form of symbols and not explain them?  It is a judgement on me and then you back off?  What exactly would you think is spiritual or not about that...it is just a clear indication of your use of any energy of psychic awareness.



If it is for you to understand me...be aware that stems from your own mind - not spirit.

Well...I have had it said to me before that it is the darkness that is giving me this information, but that is usually the case throughout history.
As it was said to Christ when he performed miracles.


God is spirit. Spirit is light.  We are spirit in form and that the light within.  Under no circumstances am I of the 'religious' (not spiritual) belief that all communion with spirit is good or bad, of the light or dark.  The practice itself indicates its level of light.  When you are using your mind to form your demonstration you are not using the light (spirit) and that is where darkness would be indicated.  What they believed of Christ was local superstition without knowledge and I, for one, am doing what I can to eliminate that approach.


That is no reflection on your psychic abilities or anyone else's.  Protection IS about yourself.  When you attune at that physical, material level and use it as you are doing, you are causing yourself more harm than anyone else.



I don't realise that I am using it, but I am not going to pretend that I do not see, when I do. Nor am I going to pretend that I am deaf if I hear something that I don't want to listen to.

Nor would anyone expect you to ignore what you are getting.  What is imperative, when we have a talent we hone it to its best level...this is just not the case when we 'play around' as this indicates.  Psychic abilities can come unbidden.  Understanding them is a personal choice.


If it is a case that it is a bad thing, I have had cases where if I had ignored the voices in my head, I would have been killed. So I do not understand why I shoud treat such things with contempt, when many times it has saved me from physical harm. Or should I drive into an unlit vehicle because the voice in my head is wrong?


A concert pianist is born.  But even he recognizes the need for a teacher for the basics as he practices to hone his talents.  Why is your psychic abilities so different that it does not require knowledge and understanding to make it your own at its best level?

 Raising it to a spiritual level and you would be learning spirituality.  Unfortunately it is not available at this kind of level.

Well, I am not spiritual, so perhaps I ought to leave this sort of thing to the pure in heart?

You ARE a spirit.  That means that there is striving within the spirit to make all experiences on that level.  Whether you acknowledge it or not, that is the level of human existence we are here to learn and grow within.


Also when you use this astral level of reading you are only getting a more reflective reading of the people you are touching.  I would also hazzard a guess...you are de-energized in the practice?  The first blush is a strong warm feeling and then in a short time feeling like you have been totally drained.

Hmmm...not really.

So looking at the forums, I have seen nothing through the spiritual side. There are psychics, yet no one is saying anything apart from agreeing to a very broad based opinion. In actual fact, I am about the only person here(and I am not saying this with a boast) who has said anything concrete.

That is downright offensive!  There have been some wonderful posts of others' experiences that have taught me what they are learning and using.  And it is certainly a lot better than what you offered - concrete or otherwise.  A symbol that is not understood is not concrete.  What have you said that is concrete?


"Oh...I cannot see on your desk because I am spiritual, yet I can see on THEIR desk being none spiritual".

Where is this quote from and what is its reference in this particular post?


Yet the differnce, is that they are holy and I am bad, so they are saying nothing. Not the case of the spiritual side having greater proficiency than the negative, but a case of "Oh I know, but I am keeping quiet"

Yet silence adorns our pages.


What does all this quote business mean?  That is blind information and certainly not anything concrete to discuss.  

 That is also a symptom of this level of work.  NEVER doing spirit work - at a spiritually protected level - is the medium ever de-energized...if anything, they are almost buzzed by the return of energy during and following its practice.  Just some consideration for your education.

I don't understand......

Exactly!

In a discussion forum it is not about reading people.  I take little time or effort as to who I am speaking with...merely use their own words to discuss a topic.  Reading someone is a totally different matter and is done (ethically) only with permission.

That makes sense, but are we to accept what we are being told by "I say so regime"

If being non spiritual is having doubts, then I have to concede on this point.

Being doubtful has nothing to do with spirituality.  We question ourselves all the time and that is how the spirituality grows.  We also post what has worked for us as an effective suggestion.  I don't know anyone here who is a "I say so" so do it type?  Where have you found that?

I am not profoundly an adept, but a simple man with the ability to understand others. Nor am I spiritual, as I cannot conform to this level of attainment.
Or if it be a case of "turning over a new leaf" overnight, that would not change me from being what I cannot be.

You do NOT understand others.  You merely use a psychic trick that tunes into others energies.  It will be right in about 50% cases (and I was recently told someone understood 95% of their reading).  

YOU are the only one who can change YOU!  No one here is trying to do that - nor even show the spiritual way.  That is a personal journey.  And the spiritual is not the same as the psychic - one does enhance the other, but they are not one and the same.

Socrates said:  KNOW THYSELF!  He didn't say call a committee to agree or let someone else take that responsibility.  He did say get in touch with self.


Yet, I am learning and will continue to listen.
It seems that going by what you are telling me, is that I have to turn off to be a happy individual and progress on the rightious path of development.


There is no right way for all.  Psychic abilities do NOT come in a One Size Fits All catagory.  It comes in an individual practice and growth.  Learning and understanding many types of lessons of life will aid that growth because the soul is always involved in your experiences.

Pierre Teilhard de Chardin:  We are not a human being having a spiritual experience.  We are a spiritual being having a human experience.

In that, you cannot escape the spiritual aspect of yourself.  Allowing it to unfold is a measure of your spirituality.  And again...up to the self for its own growth.



Regards George
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