George,

You had mentioned purity of the heart. Would you say that intent is what gives strength to such symbols or prayers or other methods of protection. In other words, if the intent from our heart is true, then such things will work, whilst things done in haste will not work?

And no I don't see you as argumentative at all.

Someone had mentioned crosses and other symbols. Honestly I don't believe that tradition is what gives strength to anything. Your intent in that tradition may, but not the tradition itself? One such example is a cross. Some believe in it, and others do not. Let's say one used it for the mere idea of using it without believing in it. What if what it was being used against did not believe in crosses, then why should it be repelled by one? Old tricks, new tactics? Just a thought.

Regards George

While spirit work is mainly on the mind, through meditation, the fact is...spirit entities do come and join in the work of spirit communion.  And yes, it is work.  There are certain conditions for communication to occur and a big part of it the attunement of the medium.  It is not a game and the word play was never used in that context.

Being inquisitive is never argumentative.  But a fixed mind in some areas will also bring more problems than solutions.  Arguing each and every attempt to enlighten someone gets no where unless they are open to the imperfection of us all...but having some knowledge and experience that would aid the process.

Like the earth plane, the afterlife (spirit realms) are full of the good, the bad, the ugly.  In spirit we arrive on the level best suited to our spirituality by a process of natural law (like the cream rising to the top of the milk).  Those that open and welcome any and all and sundry will get just that...there is no control of communication....that is where good ideas and lessons on mediumship come in operation.  

The use of protection and grounding keep us aware of our material/physical existence and allow it to commune in the spirit level of existence.  Understanding and knowledge are important here to know who and what we are doing in communication.

Those that make a practice of random lessons and go off half armed will get what their intent dictates...that, too, is natural law.  The idea of being forewarned or forearmed is very important to this exercise.  Do all things, experience all thing at your own discretion.  What you body, mind, spirit welcomes is what will come, it is the law.

When we protect ourselves it is through God's love and grace.  The important of it sets our intent and purpose in the exercise.  But to give away all power and say a doorkeeper (you are learning the words - understanding?) and/or a spirit guide is to dismiss our own power in the whole process.  Loving guides and guardians and doorkeepers do not take our power away, they help us use it to more effect.

While spirit work is mainly on the mind, through meditation, the fact is...spirit entities do come and join in the work of spirit communion.  And yes, it is work.  There are certain conditions for communication to occur and a big part of it the attunement of the medium.  It is not a game and the word play was never used in that context.

I did realise that it was mot "play", as I had outlined this. Think I know what you are trying to say.
You basically mean that for any type of communication to take place, that there has to be a "third party". So you are saying that the person has to be responsive to outside influences for communication to take place.
This is why you mention "protection", because you are saying that "casting ones bread upon the waters" does not bring in "good fish"

This is where we differ, because I believe that there does not have to be a "third party" for communication to take place.  So this is why I was finding it difficult to understand what you mean.

It is also beginning to make a certain amount of sense regarding this "protection". What you fail to say, is that anybody attempting to use psychic interventions, is NOT PURE enough, and  this allows themselves to be attacked. The failure has to be with the Medium.

All I am saying, is that we create our own barriers within the parameters of our mind.  That the power is NOT through a third party, but through the individual who has developed this process through evolvement.

This does not mean that I am pure in heart, as I too have been attacked.
Having said all this, I could be wrong.....yet I am trying to understand.

Being inquisitive is never argumentative.  But a fixed mind in some areas will also bring more problems than solutions.  Arguing each and every attempt to enlighten someone gets no where unless they are open to the imperfection of us all...but having some knowledge and experience that would aid the process.

Agreed

Like the earth plane, the afterlife (spirit realms) are full of the good, the bad, the ugly.  In spirit we arrive on the level best suited to our spirituality by a process of natural law (like the cream rising to the top of the milk).  Those that open and welcome any and all and sundry will get just that...there is no control of communication....that is where good ideas and lessons on mediumship come in operation.  

The use of protection and grounding keep us aware of our material/physical existence and allow it to commune in the spirit level of existence.  Understanding and knowledge are important here to know who and what we are doing in communication.

If we are too aware of our natural earth surroundings, what happens when an important message comes through, when we are grounded?

Is this similar to "leave a message on the answering machine as the car is going to hit me?"

Those that make a practice of random lessons and go off half armed will get what their intent dictates...that, too, is natural law.  The idea of being forewarned or forearmed is very important to this exercise.  Do all things, experience all thing at your own discretion.  What you body, mind, spirit welcomes is what will come, it is the law.

The natural law of "fee will" would dictate that if the person causes no harm or communicates with "ill will surroundings", then they would not be trespassed upon .

It also defeats the object, because there are those who are psychic and use their ability in a natural sense without realising it. I also feel that those who are attacked, are being attacked because their own peace of mind fails
to hide the descering truth that is open to the spirit world.

The simple answer, is that none of us should be involved, as we have "grounding" to keep the body in the material world. When we violate materialism, we indeed put ourselves to the cats. Unless we have full faculties to enable us to see. Again...I could be wrong.

When we protect ourselves it is through God's love and grace.  The important of it sets our intent and purpose in the exercise.  But to give away all power and say a doorkeeper (you are learning the words - understanding?) and/or a spirit guide is to dismiss our own power in the whole process.  Loving guides and guardians and doorkeepers do not take our power away, they help us use it to more effect.

The word "grace" is to have "privilidge upon" Something like the man who has no money and needs to borrow a huge amount by the grace of the lender.

Unless of course he has his own money, which means he can waste it, or use it for good cause.

It is wise to know that the person who has lost the privilide, has the lender to account for.

Yet the one who needs no money only has his own losses to worry about.

Your points are well taken, as I am trying to validate.
Regards George

A third party (spirit guide) is the source for a medium.  Psychics use the energies that float around life all the time.  This energy is random and it is not about developing the mind to receive, so much as to be discerning of the various energies and decide what is valid and what is not.  No matter how much development, it is a limited source as they are very random and can change with the whims of individuals in body, mind, spirit.

Protection is not about spirit ONLY.  It is about the random energies.  When we have a pain...we send out a shout of pain...and the energy is put into the pool of energy.  When we have a loving thought...this too is put in the pool.  Considering the state of our world at present, you can see how the pool has become rather mudied with the negative as opposed to the positive energies.

"The natural law of "fee will" would dictate that if the person causes no harm or communicates with "ill will surroundings", then they would not be trespassed upon ."

This one is where our own good intent is not maintained and the reference to our own worst enemy for interference is our own self.  Our mind does not maintain positive mode nearly quite enough to eliminate all those pool of energies.  

You may have free will to send loving thoughts at the same time as your sitter is sending challenging and/or not so positive free will thoughts.  As you can see, this would certianly cause confusion at worst.

A medium is always a psychic and the random warning messages get through quite well all the time.  But as with all things in life, are we open and connected all the time?  I don't believe we are...that is the purpose for a study of the subject of chakras.  Two open to the world at large - the top and bottom.  The others operate through the body.  But the speed at which we rotate them (chakra means wheels) is a measure of what vibrations we will pick up.